Talk:Age of Empires III: The WarChiefs/Archive 1

Aztec as the Third Civilization
Can anyone confirm this fact or did some Aztec-lover just put it in?

It is confirmed. say1988 01:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Could someone please put a link to where it says the new Aztec units (not including eagle and jaguar warriors).

Here it is.
 * IGN Article

Untitled
Where does all information about new European units come from? Directly from Microsoft?

Some from press releases, but most come from Ask Sandy, and as he is the lead designer on the warchiefs, I think we can take that as fact.say1988 22:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Are there really ninjas,if so, could someone put a link?

I don't think we need cite needed-signs, at least not at the first section. It is no secret there will be new civilizations, units, maps and campaign.

Release Date
ES and microsoft only give 4th quater or fall 2006, unless you can find an official source, I will revert to that. say1988 22:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Check the IGN website. It's official - october 2 and 13

Okay, I don't trust that and wonder if it is just an estimate, but I will leave it.say1988

Okay, usually they're pretty accurate

Not meaning to brag, but, I was right.

when do you think the demo will come out [superchad] (at school) IF there is one, it won't be until release, but there may well not be one released.

It has been anounced in the ask Sandy thread that there will be no demo.

Release date
Anoyone knows where warchiefs is launched in any place of the world?--189.164.12.238 00:39, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Native Stealth
I don't want to include any of my own original research, but it seems to me like it would be worth mentioning "stealth" that is used in other RTS games. For example, War of the Ring has units which are only available with "detector units" around them. The French in Empire Earth: The Art of Conquest have the power of "camoflauge", making them invisible to enemies after being idle for ten seconds. So is it worth mentioning these in relation to the Native stealth ability? Of course, I suppose it may be best just to wait a week until the game comes out, then the truth can be written in. Thunderforge 20:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

One playing the demo can see stealth can only be used by a few units. These special few can only move very slowly in stealth, and cannot attack (unless they change to normal, which is done instantly). It can only be used when no enemies are nearby but they can move near an enemy army or base when in stealth mode. I know there's a way for them to be detected (it happenned to me), but I'm not sure how it happens. Bluepaladin 01:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Unit Links
Do all of the units really need pointless red links that go nowhere? 67.172.125.13 00:29, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

No. But it shows that there is no article about that unit. Otherwise people might assume it's wrong, I guess. Bluepaladin 02:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Campaign
Can anybody complete the below? I have it half done. I also have screenshots, if anyone could tell me how to upload them. Bluepaladin 23:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Responded on talk page. | A ndonic O Talk 23:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I still need someone to finish it for me. Bluepaladin 23:37, 5 December 2006 (UTC)



Campaign (incomplete)
The first act opens with Nathaniel Black in his Iroquois village. Knowing the Iroquois nations are having trouble with each other, Nathaniel sets out with with his uncle Kanyenke to fight the Mohawk traitors. Upon returning to his village, they find Nonhankee has been kidnapped by Hessians (German mercenaries fighting with England), in alliance with the Mohawk. She is rescued after a large battle against General Keuchler.

Soon after, Nathaniel joins the Americans in the Revolutionary War, beggining with the Battle of Bunker Hill (It's called Breed's Hill in the campaign: this is correct), continuing throughout other battles, including the winter at Valley Forge, and killing General Keuchler. It eventually ends at Yorktown.

Throughout this campaign, the player can train Iroquois Mohawks and Revolutionary Militia.

The second act begins with Chayton Black, who wishes to fight against the Sioux with the Americans and expand his railroad company.

AOE3
I know that in Age of Empires III, the only cards that you could send are the 1st tier resource cards. But in Age of Empires III: The Warchiefs, there are other cards that can be sent a infinite number of times. I was wondering if this was due to a patch, or due to the expansion; in that I mean is this a Age of Empires III: The Warchiefs feature. Thanks.100110100 12:09, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I do believe I saw another "infinate" card, but I can't remember which one it was. In the campaign, you can send the 2-settler card infinatly (in both the original and the expansion). I'll post later this week when I play for information on which specific card(s) it was. | A ndonic O Talk 10:35, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

In the Age of empires 3: The WarChiefs, They added new cards for all civilizations. If i remember correctly, A new feature was that each civilization had a card in which they could send a band of Allies (or mecenaries) INFINITE times. Another thing i remeber is that The aztec civilization had the ability to sent any gold card (no matter what tier)an INFINITE amount of times. My memory is a little foggy but, for the most part,i think i am right. Hence, to answer the first guy's question, it is a Warcheif feature.69.236.177.242 02:49, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Unless I'm mistaken, Ottomans have a 4 galley card that can be sent infinite times after age 4 (Level 40 Home City required). I'm not sure if it's worth mentioning, but if it's true that the expansion is the only one with that feature, then I'd say it's worth mentioning--Th3DarkCloud 00:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Chayton Black
Any guesses on who was Chayton's father? He retained his mother's last name, so it was either a Native American or someone whose last name was also Black. Chronolegion 15:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


 * The campaign says he was a Sioux, but I don't know anything else. | A ndonic O Talk · Sign Here 15:17, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Too Many Gameplay Pictures!
Personally, I feel that there are too many gameplay pictures and that they all pretty much show the same thing. I know they can be valuable, but I feel like it's detracting from the article itself. What do you all think? Also, I'm not sure if the "Games for Windows" cover box is the best one to use because this game will be available for Macintosh computers and it could be misleading that this game is not exclusively available for Windows. Thunderforge 00:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Don't know about the cover, but I think we should ditch a few screenshots. There are four or five; there should be half. · <b style="font-family:Papyrus; color:black; font-size:x-small;">AO</b> <sup style="color:DarkSlateGray;">Talk 15:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Circle of Ossus
I'm a little disappointed that the Circle is not mentioned in the expansion. After all, that is how Amelia Black got the funds to expand the railroad. I also would've liked to see Morgan Black show up again, if only once again during credits. Chronolegion 15:33, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I quite agree. The Circle is also the reason the Black family is even in the New World in the first place. 58.168.133.248
 * But the circle was destroyed, why should it be mentioned? I agree Morgan should be in there though, at least as an "easter egg". | <b style="font-family:Papyrus; color:black; font-size:x-small;">A</b> ndonic <b style="font-family:Papyrus; color:black; font-size:x-small;">O</b> Talk · Sign Here 01:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Destroyed? How many times was it destroyed before? If even one member survived, the Circle would be reborn, and they would try again. Chronolegion 13:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, supposedly, the Ossuary was their last hope, and everyone there was killed (at least that's what I thought...). They should make something up for AoEIV though. · <b style="font-family:Papyrus; color:black; font-size:x-small;">AO</b> <sup style="color:DarkSlateGray;">Talk 15:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Help
I am on the last leveel of the AOE 3 War Chiefs Campaign where you have to destroy the Hessian's base. I have crossed the swamp and destroyed the gate but I still can't get up on land. Please help.
 * Again, this is a talk page for the article, not a chat forum for Age of Empires III. This is not the place for questions about the game. Thunderforge 22:16, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * GameSpot usually has FAQs and/or walkthroughs for games. Chronolegion 15:13, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Try downloading the latest patch. That once fixed a bug for me (in the original campaign). · <b style="font-family:Papyrus; color:black; font-size:x-small;">AO</b> <sup style="color:DarkSlateGray;">Talk 15:43, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand. It's been nearly six months since the game's release and it still doesn't even have a guide on GameFAQs. Do you think it ever will? Jc iindyysgvxc 22:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Can I please have an answer? 124.176.134.126 02:51, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I destroyed the gate and got up perfectly. That's why I recommended downloading the new patch. If that doesn't work either, maybe you should re-install the game. · <b style="font-family:Papyrus; color:black; font-size:x-small;">AO</b> <sup style="color:DarkSlateGray;">Talk 11:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Civilizations table
Should we change the table, by making some somewhat minor adjustments, and having it ending up looking like the one in Age of Empires III? If we do so, both tables would be more similiar, and this one would look like this:

(note that I have changed the images to the most similiar free flag images I could find, because fair-use image sare not allowed here on talk page)

Basically, with these adjustments we would...
 * Eliminate the "Home City/Tribal Council" column.
 * Merge column "AI Personality" into column "Civilization".

I was about to implement this change, but I was unsure about one thing: Since there are fewer civilizations covered with a table here than in AoE3, should we include more detailed information about each one of them, since they are few; just like 100 dollars divided between 2 people make 50-50 whilst 100 dollars divided between 5 people make 20-20-20-20-20 (which would be theorically the same but with dollars instead of "detail" and a different proportion)? The result of this discussion would also determine the future of the difference of detail of info of civs between the other AoE games and their expansions. ♠  TomasBat   01:50, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I like the proposal about the table. Make the change that you suggested above, but don't include more information - cruftiness is exactly the same, whether there is more or less information. ck lostsword•T•C 18:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ ♠   TomasBat   19:53, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Where are the other Civilizations?
The game is really cool and everything but I was wondering where are the Incas or the Mayas, they are far more important than the Iroquois or the Sioux. The Inca empire was the biggest in America before the european came. They should have the places of those other cultures. I mean they didn't even had buildings, the "Go to HomeCity" button doesn't apply to them. The Iroquois and Sioux are important but not as much as the Incas or Mayas, there is a reason why this is called Age of EMPIRES. Just compare their development and cultural complexity and you'll see. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.55.175 (talk) 02:45, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Those civilisations aren't in-game as they would be alot more similar to the Aztecs then the devs want them to be. whops forgot to sign my post. Joeking16 12:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

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Ironclads
One of the revolutionary bonuses was (according to the article) "3 ironclads". But ironclads are not mentioned in the bit about new units and (as far as I can tell) don't exist in the normal (unexpanded) game, can someone who has the game please clarify this? Shadoom 22:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, Ironclads are only availible in this expantion pack. --Freshbakedpie (talk) 19:51, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Native Civilization Leaders: Hiwatha, Cuauhtémoc and Chief Gall
In the Civilizations Chart it is stated that the native civilization leaders are:

Iroquios: Hiwatha

Sioux: Chief Gall

Aztecs: Cuauhtémoc

Are these just speculations? OR Can anybody confirm this fact? If so, please add a link below.

The civs are right, but the chiefs' names vary (not all brits have the same explorer name.) Check the demo, like I did. Bluepaladin 01:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

i think that by chiefs they mean like Queen Elizabeth or Maurice of Nassau, not like Francis Drake or William Barents. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.23.49 (talk) 15:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Revolutonary flags
I have AOE III the Warchiefs and the flag for L'Ouverture, Bonaficio, and Santader aren't the same. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.78.206 (talk) 13:14, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

More emphasis on revolution section
I see that certain information is missing in this section or isn’t emphasized.

For one - Are revolution “continuous”, meaning that you never revert back to normal markets and resource gathering?

Yes, revolutions are continuous. Players who chose to revolt will not be able to revert to markets and resource gathering until the end of the game only. When the game ends and the next game begins, the player that revolted last game will start from the Discovery Age again. In other words, everything that goes on in a game session is temporary. After a game is over, resources will be reset to zero, all unit status upgrades will be removed, and the player will be able to start from scratch again (starting to Age I, up to age V or Revolt again). TheApplePi (talk) 05:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 08:17, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Gold Edition?
When is the Gold Edition of Age of Empires III coming out? Please someone reply ASAP...if you are in the business, that is even easier...
 * This is a talk page for the article, not a chat forum for Age of Empires III. If the date is announced, it will appear on other news sites first and it will likely wind up on this article soon after. Thunderforge 22:09, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

In short, no one knows. I'm waiting for it too.

-G

Gold Editon is alreaty out. I have a copy...it was relesed in 2008 (around that time) TheApplePi (talk) 05:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

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