Talk:Agnosticism

Agnostotheism: make page
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:2149:8286:5d00:fc1e:e047:b002:3866 (talk) 12:55, 25 October 2017‎ (UTC)

Agnosticism isn't a worldview on the metaphysical actuality of the cosmos itself
Agnosticism isn't a worldview on the metaphysical actuality of the cosmos itself, but a state of mind of the individual or a limitation of the individual. That isn't tautological to the workings of the cosmos. The "limitations of the individual", either personally or cosmically posed, are not the "mechanism of the universe"; thus agnosticism is a worldview about the opinions of the individual, and not about the cosmic actuality. The possibly hidden nature of the cosmos, isn't its only attribute, nor its deepest mechanism. Agnosticism is not the purest metaphysics on the cosmos, but it is pure ontic metaphysics on the individual (the thinker). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:587:4115:e96c:88ea:a31a:74f3:a24c (talk) 20:27, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Unclear first sentence
The first sentence is this:

"Agnosticism is the view or belief that the existence of God, of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable."

But this leaves entirely unstated the question of whose knowledge is being referred to.

Is it just the agnostic person whose knowledge is referred to here? (The existence of God is unknown or unknowable to that person?)

Or does the quote mean the agnostic believes the existence of God is unknown or unknowable to everyone?

Whatever the answer — which could be either of these, or both of these, or something else — the article desperately needs clarification. 2601:200:C082:2EA0:F171:81DE:843A:DA36 (talk) 19:35, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Definition
Should a clause not be added that agnosticism can mean "the belief that the existence of a god or gods is personally unknowable" or to mean an apathy towards religion without claiming anything about the nature of our reality? Alexanderkowal (talk) 09:41, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


 * This is inline with @2601:200:c082:2ea0:f171:81de:843a:da36's post above Alexanderkowal (talk) 09:43, 23 May 2024 (UTC)