Talk:Alliott Verdon Roe

Name
How is the name Alliot(t) spelled? In Brittanica A V Roe is spelled with double t, see. -- MarkusHagenlocher 19:56, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Google has about 3.000 hits for the spelling with double t and only about 1.000 for the spelling with one t. -- MarkusHagenlocher 15:24, 14 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Try google with "-wikipedia" to avoid checking this page and its many clones. Note also that parliament.uk has a picture of "Sir Alliott Vernon-Roe" from 1909 which is the same as one listed at the National Portrait Gallery as "Sir (Edwin) Alliott Verdon Verdon-Roe", the Shuttleworth collection have him down as "Alliot Vernon Roe". I think you can trust the Britannica. GraemeLeggett 16:01, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Not clear to me. UK-only hits for the precise name are much closer. As Alliot is less 'expected', I don't see one can be so certain. Charles Matthews 18:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)


 * As referenced in the article, The London Gazette of 2 May 1933 shows this:
 * "NOTICE is hereby given that by deed enrolled 11 in the Supreme Court of Judicature on the 28th day of April, 1933, Sir EDWIN ALLIOTT VERDON-ROE. formerly Edwin Alliott Verdon Roe, of Hamble House, Hamble, Southampton, Aeronautical Engineer, abandoned the surname Roe, and in lieu thereof adopted the surname of Verdon-Roe. (006) A. VERDON-ROE."
 * So the double t is quite clear. But the question remains - should all instances, including the title of the article, be hyphenated? Or just those instances referring to after 1933? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:38, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Plaque
Well known aviation authour Tony Blackman has posted this image on one of his website pages here, of the commemorative plaque for Verdon-Roe and his sons in St Andrew's Church in Hamble. He has very kindly given permission for it to be uploaded and used for this article. So I suggest adding it near the bottom. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:01, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * But he was unable to agree to the exact copyright statement required by Commons OTRS so the image is now to be deleted. If anyone is local to St Andrew's in Hamble, perhaps they could take a photo and upload it instead. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk)

Place of death
I had added London based on this Encyclopedia Britannica source. But J. L. Pritchard, rev. Sylvia Adams at Oxford DNB has this: "He died at St Mary's Hospital, Portsmouth, on 4 January 1958." It looks like his Times obituary was used as a source. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:40, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I would trust the DNB & the times obit over Brittanica. Is there a death notice in The Times?TheLongTone (talk) 09:50, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I see that the DNB includes these sources: The Times (6 Jan 1958), 14; The Times (27 Jan 1958), 10. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:53, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Neither the obit nor the death notice in The Times mention place of death.TheLongTone (talk) 12:39, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for checking. So the mystery deepens. But I guess that "verifiability trumps truth" for the time being. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:29, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It's a bit more complex if the DNB says one thing and Brittanica another. But Portsmouth seem slikelier given that is where he lived.TheLongTone (talk) 14:00, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, sounds resonable. Any other corroborating sources? Would FreeBMD help at all? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:09, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Funny, didnt find this yesterday: looks like Portsmouth.TheLongTone (talk) 14:21, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I guess that might be a more definitive source. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:08, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

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