Talk:AmadeoLab

Educational Project Page
This page is part of an Educational Project by students of LIUC, Italy, with a course page at: https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/LIUC_-_Universit%C3%A0_Cattaneo/Digital_Technology_(Autumn,_2021) The users of the group are new to the Wikipedia platform and are learning to edit following Wikipedia rules. They are open to any advice on improvements of the page in conformity to Wikipedia requirements and guidelines, and any help useful for the enhancement of the page will be gladly accepted. The student User names are: Limelightangel (talk) 19:28, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * LIUCjacob02
 * LIUCroxy02
 * LIUCari02
 * LIUCcara02
 * GuaroLiuc02
 * LIUCgre02
 * LIUCanto02

Page Overview
AmadeoLab is a research institute in Milan, situated in Via Giovanni Antonio Amedeo 42, 20133. AmadeoLab is famous for being home to the IRCCS Foundation National Cancer Institute and the Dipartimento di Ricerca applicata e sviluppo tecnologico. User:LIUCgre02 AmedeoLAb is a 7 floors building. User: LIUCroxy02 It is also the headquarters of the laboratories of Neurologic Institute "Carlo Besta".GuaroLiuc02 (talk) 14:22, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Topics
We can add the possible topics here and get a bit more organized so we know what we need to work on (Are there any existing topics that need to be removed? I removed the introduction yesterday as the professor suggested)LIUCjacob02 (talk) 13:35, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

I removed the overview on the Draft page and I added some additional info about the location (as the teacher suggested) LIUCcara02 (talk) 9:28, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

I removed the incorrect reference and put the new one correct (as in agreement with LIUCari02) LIUCroxy02 ([User talk:LIUCroxy02|talk]]) 11:29 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Info

 * Info about location and description of AmadeoLab in English: https://www.realtylab.it/en/properties/uffici/via-amadeo-59 LIUCjacob02 (talk) 12:18, 19 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Link in English to their current research program about epilipsy https://www.researchgate.net/lab/Alida-Amadeo-Lab LIUCjacob02 (talk) 12:39, 19 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Information about IRCCS: https://www.qsalute.it/istituto-dei-tumori-milano/


 * AmadeoLab was established in 1928 for healing and researching oncological disease. Inside the institute is possible to perform tests to prevent potential oncological patients, in order to offer appropriate medical care and assistance.[2] User:LIUCanto02


 * History of Siemens in Italy: https://new.siemens.com/it/it/azienda/chi-siamo/storia.html


 * Fondo archivistico della sede Di via Amadeo https://lombardiarchivi.servizirl.it/fonds/77402


 * General director: https://www.istitutotumori.mi.it/direttore-generale LIUCgre02 (talk)


 * Project idea https://www.istituto-besta.it/documents/447318/8049562/Allegato+B+-+Budget+di+progetto_100239.PDF/67f0a45d-08ec-7ebb-6dc4-868e17f63846 LIUCgre02 (talk)


 * Biobank, project: http://www.asptrapani.it/upload/asp_trapani/rassegnastampa/open_allegato1612_7289_102.pdf


 * Research about DCs (2012): https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/120/6/1237/30517/Migratory-and-not-lymphoid-resident-dendritic LIUCcara02 (talk)


 * Info related to the framework programs for research and technological development (FP7): https://www.ehu.eus/documents/2458339/2849729/fp7-inbrief_en.pdf/84bd26a8-ab12-469a-8ed9-475917b36cd1?t=1411241328000 LIUCcara02 (talk)


 * Research in 2011: https://www.scitepress.org/papers/2011/31618/31618.pdf

Location Discussion

 * What about putting the photos that LIUCgre02 took next to the location area? LIUCari02 (talk) 14:20, 4 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, I think it is a good idea in order to enrich our page. I was thinking, also, we should try to get some pictures from inside the building. Maybe we should ask permission to do that. LIUCcara02 (talk) 15:27, 4 November 2021 (UTC)


 * LIUCcara02, I agree with you because the pictures from outside seem all the same. It would be interesting to put pictures from another perspective. LIUCroxy02 (talk) 18:46, 4 November 2021 (UTC)


 * That sounds great, and what about adding a little section about the name of the lab? Just mentioning who Giovanni Antonio Amadeo was LIUCgre02 (talk)


 * Thanks LIUCgre02. LIUCcara02 (talk) 11:08, 5 November 2021 (UTC)


 * What do you think about adding a part in which we talk about what was before Amadeolab? LIUCanto02 (talk)


 * I love your idea LIUCanto02, we should put it under history. Something like 'before Amadeolab' LIUCgre02 (talk)


 * I agree, surely that would be a really interesting part of the page, as there are many historical references about the institute. We should gather some info *(with acceptable sources) for that part. LIUCcara02 (talk) 15:06, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Research Discussion

 * What about putting a part dedicated to all the different researches(structured as a sort of list) that the Amedeolab is currently planning to do?LIUCari02 (talk) 17:52, 8 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I think it would be great but we have to look for the correct references GuaroLiuc02 (talk) 18:14, 8 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I agree as well, I think it's a really good idea. We can talk about it better when we will catch up. LIUCanto02 (talk)  11:15, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I love your idea! Have you already found something about it? let's add some references on the top of the page so that everyone can share information. LIUCgre02 (talk)  11:23, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

History Discussion

 * What do you think about adding some history about SIEMENS? LIUCanto02 (talk) 11:10, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, I believe it's a great idea since AmadeoLab was one of the main sites of that company. Let's write some general info about SIEMENS and its history. LIUCgre02 (talk). 11:15, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Okay great; what do you think about making a call now and working a bit on it? LIUCanto02 (talk). 11:17,  9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Perfect! Let's meet up, I will send you an invite on Teams!LIUCgre02 (talk) 11:20,  9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes perfect! GuaroLiuc02 (talk) 14:24, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

References Discussion

 * LIUCgre02, could you please send me the references for the closure of the site in Via Amadeo 42, Milan, and the company that bought the institute? LIUCanto02 (talk). 12:20, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

LIUCgre02 (talk)
 * Yes sure! It was first closed in 1994 and sold to General Medical Merate in 1996. Here is the link!! http://www.archiviolavoro.it/sites/www.archiviolavoro.it/files/PDF%20inventari/Siemens%20-%20Divisione%20Gorla%20Siama.pdf


 * Great job! Thank you really much I will add it now. LIUCanto02 (talk).12:30, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Location Discussion (Map)
What about adding a map with the actual position of the laboratory in the infoboLIUCari02 (talk) 13:35, 9 November 2021 (UTC)x?


 * yes, GuaroLiuc02 is going to do it soon! LIUCgre02 (talk)


 * I added the subsection about Siemens. LIUCroxy02 (talk) 14:09, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I added some more info about the location, please read through it and let me know what you think. I'm a bit concerned I might be leaning towards some advertising, but I'm not sure. What do you think? LIUCjacob02 (talk) 14:40, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure that the part regarding the public bus because it might change over time and for that it may be considered as wrong information LIUCari02 (talk) 14:57, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I removed the bus/train information under "location" and cleared the big spaces there was between the topics LIUCjacob02 (talk) 16:25, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I am currently adding a part about the research perfomed in the institute in 2009. https://www.scitepress.org/papers/2011/31618/31618.pdfLIUCcara02 (talk) 16:47, 11 November 2021 (UTC)


 * LIUCgre02, I really like the edit you just made (inserting the pics of the different perspectives of the building), good job! LIUCcara02 (talk) 12:39, 12 November 2021 (UTC)


 * we just got in an edit conflict, I was actually saying that I added a Gallery section! As soon as we have pics of internal labs I would love any of you to upload them! LIUCgre02 (talk) 11:41, 12 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Added a new topic: "Research: 2011". Please have a read-through and feel free to edit, delete or add more if you see fit. We should probably very soon start going through all our references to wiki pages as well, so we don't refer to the same wiki pages multiple times throughout the article. LIUCjacob02 (talk) 18:06, 12 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I can't see the reference in the part "Research 2012", can the one who wrote it put the reference? LIUCroxy02 (talk)


 * LIUCroxy02, I was editing that part while you wrote here on the talk page, now you should be able to see the relative references. I also went through the whole page and corrected some grammar/orthography mistakes LIUCcara02 (talk) 15:18, 13 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you LIUCcara02 for answering me, yes I can see them. LIUCroxy02 (talk) 12:39,15 November 2021 (UTC)

Research Discussion 1

 * Good job everyone, we are getting there! For the ones who need some more edits please add researches. There are still many out there that we can mention! LIUCgre02 (talk) 11:58, 14 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, I agree, our draft page is much better now, we made some major improvements, but we can still enrichen it with some additional info about all the researches performed in the lab in the last years, just as LIUCgre02 said. LIUCcara02 (talk) 12:03, 15 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I added the research of 2013 and now the one of 2016. LIUCroxy02 (talk) 12:34, 15 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Great job! GuaroLiuc02 (talk) 14:27, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Carlo Besta

 * IMPORTANT UPDATE: AmadeoLab is asking to write about their collaboration with the institute Carlo Besta, which has a site in via Amadeo 42 as well. Let's get to work and let's find all the info we can find! I have an appointment tomorrow with one of their employees!!LIUCgre02 (talk) 17:05, 15 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Okay perfect! GuaroLiuc02 (talk) 14:28, 18 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Guys we are missing a reference in AmadeoLab today, who can provide that to me? LIUCgre02 (talk) 08:59, 23 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I'll do it as soon as I can GuaroLiuc02 (talk) 16:14, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Research Discussion 2

 * Other laboratory activities include the development and study of cellular and animal models for the understanding of disease mechanisms, and for the identification of experimental pharmacological and molecular therapies. Inside AmadeoLab counts many laboratories, such as cortex neuropathology laboratory, laboratory of systemic and cellular neurophysiology, laboratory of neuroanatomy and molecular pathogenesis, genetic laboratory of neurodegenerative and metabolite diseases, laboratory of genetics and biochemistry of dementia. Is it okay or is it too specific?GuaroLiuc02 (talk) 16:18, 29 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I think this part it's fine: "Other laboratory activities include the development and study of cellular and animal models for the understanding of disease mechanisms, and for the identification of experimental pharmacological and molecular therapies". While this other part is a bit too specific: "Inside AmadeoLab counts many laboratories, such as cortex neuropathology laboratory, laboratory of systemic and cellular neurophysiology, laboratory of neuroanatomy and molecular pathogenesis, genetic laboratory of neurodegenerative and metabolite diseases, laboratory of genetics and biochemistry of dementia."I would just put the most important info. LIUCanto02 (talk) 16:10, 29 November 2021 (UTC)


 * So instead of this part "Inside AmadeoLab counts many laboratories, such as cortex neuropathology laboratory, laboratory of systemic and cellular neurophysiology, laboratory of neuroanatomy and molecular pathogenesis, genetic laboratory of neurodegenerative and metabolite diseases, laboratory of genetics and biochemistry of dementia." I'll put something not so specific but a bit summarized. GuaroLiuc02 (talk) 16:16, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Research Discussion 3
Guys I need your help to gather info about some researchers of the neurological institute Carlo Besta based in AmadeoLab. I will just drop some of their names here. The best source to find something is Pubmed. names: Marco de Curtis Franco Taroni Cinzia Gallera Alessandro Solari. LIUCgre02 (talk) 13:09, 2 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Great idea, I think that we should add them under another section that we might call 'Reaserch made by Institute Bestra"LIUCari02 (talk) 20:03, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Research Discussion 4

 * In 2009, the INT (National Institute of Tumors) took care of approximately 14,000 inpatients, accepted 10,000 day-hospital admissions, and treated more than 1 million outpatients. The institute performed 11,500 surgical operations, including 28 Liver transplantation. In the same year, it developed 70 trials of new therapies, and all the research published by the institute has had great growth in the impact factor. It also inspired the Lombardy Oncology-Pathology Network (ROL). The opening of the AmadeoLab as part of the institute was crucial for a project directed by the INT. The project aimed to establish a Biobanking infrastructure, to investigate the procedures for quality controls in the field of Histology, specifically about tissue processing and the storing procedures. The objective was to develop a hospital with a scientific data-based system.

In 2014, research focused on the effects of a part of a isoform of the HER2 receptor that does not present the 16 exons (d16HER2). It is represented in some cases of Her2-positive-breast cancer, showing how this particular exon can accelerate the mammary tumor genesis and improve the response to the antibody trastuzumab. don't you think those research are too specific? I decided to took it off because I was worried they won't accept it. Let me know what you think. LIUCanto02 (talk)


 * No, I actually believe that it could be nice to keep it! let's review that but it think you can upload it back LIUCgre02 (talk) 13:11, 2 December 2021 (UTC)


 * I agree with LIUCgre02, I think that it could be a great info to share about the Institute LIUCari02 (talk) 13:13, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft Review 27/10/21

 * the page needs an initial summary defining the topic and its notability. The section Introduction does not conform to platform conventions and should be removed. Limelightangel (talk) 08:55, 27 October 2021 (UTC)


 * References: there are inadequate breadth and range of sources; reference 2 is incorrectly formatted with the Cite template for web references; reference 1 should not be in upper case. The History section has no references and inadequate content. Limelightangel (talk) 08:55, 27 October 2021 (UTC)


 * the page is inadequate in breadth and depth of content and sources. It needs a relevant infobox, see also, external links, images, and a map. Limelightangel (talk) 08:55, 27 October 2021 (UTC)


 * there are basic grammar issues, highlighted in red in the markup. Limelightangel (talk) 08:55, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Draft Review 15/11/21

 * add the page to relevant Categories. See Help:Category.


 * references: there are extensive errors with many of the references, particularly related to the correct use of the relevant templates for Cite Web and Cite Article. See Citation templates.  Some examples: refs. 17, 18, 21, 23, 25 28 and 30 are incorrect.  You need to cite the original journal article source, not an intermediate website with an article abstract.   See Template:Cite journal.  Refs. 8, 11, 19, and 24 are incorrect.  See Template:Cite web.  Ref. 1 is missing the publisher. For ref 3., is Google Maps an acceptable reference source?   Ref. 6 has not used the author fields correctly in the template.  refs 5 and 12 are duplicates and need the use of 'ref name' in the template.  The link for ref. 22 does not work.


 * See Also links: there are far too many links here, and several of the links duplicate links from the article text. See Manual_of_Style/Layout.


 * linking out: there are several instances of 'over-linking' e.g. to Berlin, etc. See Manual_of_Style/Linking. Is institute a relevant link out, in addition to research institute?


 * image captions: see Manual of Style/Captions. They need to clarify what they show e.g. Entrance, AmadeoLab Research Institute, Milan, Italy, etc.


 * style: see, for example, Writing better articles.  Remove, and avoid the future use of, words like: 'was born', 'conveniently', 'moreover', 'as a matter of fact', 'even though', 'four streets from', etc.  Remove the personal tense e.g. 'we also find', etc.


 * Talk page use: tidy up the existing Talk page. Create better sections on the page i.e. not just 'discussion 1, discussion 2, etc.  Respond to others' posts.  Don't just use it to just post information.  It may be reviewed by other editors and needs to be clearly structured. Some sections do not make sense to other editors.  There are no responses to my earlier feedback on Draft Review 27/10/21. You do not use personal names - remove these.  See Talk page guidelines.


 * Grammar: the sub-sections on research by year needs substantially re-writing, for both grammar and acceptability. Be consistent - is it AmadeoLab or Amadeolab?  Deal with the introduction of the INT acronym better.  See Manual of Style/Abbreviations. 'neu protein'?

Limelightangel (talk) 17:51, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * structure: I suggest a section on Key Research Developments, with sub-sections of major things, in chronological order - rather than sub-sections with the year in them. The existing sections should briefly summarize the different research, rather than go in to the current level of detail.  The grammar, synthesis, and clarity are very poor in all these sub-sections.


 * Thanks! Limelightangel, LIUCcara02 (talk) 10:23, 16 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I edited the captions on all the pictures and corrected the "capital letter" mistake on 2 of them LIUCjacob02 (talk) 15:42, 16 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I did references 19, 25, 28. LIUCroxy02 (talk)


 * I am currently editing the "Relevant researches" part, following your suggestion. LIUCcara02 (talk) 15:07, 17 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I revised all the other references, thanks for the advice LIUCari02 (talk) 14:16, 17 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I have revised the grammar on the Draft page and corrected "AmadeoLab", which was written wrongly a couple of times. I've also removed the personal tense (E.G., We find;...) as the Professor suggested.--LIUCcara02 (talk) 01:07, 29 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I have detected and corrected some spelling mistakes as well.LIUCcara02 (talk) 01:17, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

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