Talk:America's Next Top Model season 10

Lock
When should this page start having a "lock" on it for registered users only? Already, I occasionally see a couple of people already adding unsourced information. I know for sure from past cycles that people will continue to add false or unsourced last names, mess with the callout order and the like. So when is the right "time"? Sireafi (talk) 02:28, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * And where did that elimination table come from? 81.101.253.201 (talk) 19:54, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I know it's been removed some time ago but this is the type of thing I'm talking about. Someone already made a fake callout table and it's preshow! Sireafi (talk) 21:38, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I think now would be a good time for a semi-lock for the article. Already, unregistered users have added fake callouts. Sireafi (talk) 04:30, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Removed the incorrect and rumored Callout table information. Corrected the already aired episode information and removed the remaining names until called. ZyphBear (talk) 08:30, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Surnames
Anya's and Claire's surnames have been found. They have print work and are properly cited. Anya Kop and Claire Unabia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.72.55.246 (talk) 04:16, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You need to cite your source in the article, not here on the talk page. Eatcacti (talk) 04:26, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * is facebook a reliable source —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.85.132.54 (talk) 03:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No. Because anyone can make a Facebook page claiming their name is anything.  Things like newspaper or magazine articles are usually considered reliable sources.  &mdash;dgies tc 00:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes! We need to source things scrupulously. There is all sorts of fake information on the Web, and we put confirmable citations so that other editors can check it and see it for themselves. Blogs, for instance, are not allowed unless it's the blog of the subject him/herself, or a newspaper/magazine column that's simply online as a blog -- please see and read WP:SPS and WP:BLP. --Skippu (talk) 14:22, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Chart
Amazing,someone has all ready finished the chart! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Npurplegirl (talk • contribs) 23:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC) whats the link —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.225.232.193 (talk) 23:01, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

 Winner

I'm SO glad Whitney won. First plus size winner!I'm so happy for her. Can whoever wrote that Anya won fix that? The finale just ended and I'm POSITIVE Whitney won. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.217.102 (talk) 01:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

FDNY
Under the episode Where's the Beef? it says that the New York City Fire department is featured. They aren't. The FDNY wear black bunker gear, the FD featured was wearing tan. Also, the FDNY Engine 5 and Ladder 2 are not in the same station house. If you look at the helmet Jay is wearing it says "Oceana Fire Dept."

... Mr. Jay SAID "Welcome to the New York Fire Department"...220.255.7.226 (talk) 11:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Girls' Makeover
Tyra never specified what her hair color was but that it'll just be darker. However by the naked eye, it's obviously black but others say that since it wasn't specified, it should not be called black.

Also, Dominique's original hair color or re-dye was never specified but it was obviously dark brown and dark blond, respectively. Due to that reasoning, should it be removed too?

Lastly, Allison's hair color is never specified but Yahoo posts the pictures and described it as, "Allison went from dark to bright with a new copper mane." - http://tv.yahoo.com/americas-next-top-model/show/35130/photos/1

So please discuss. We should keep a semi-permanent list of makeovers on the talk page so that the makeovers aren't changed over a certain detail or color. Sireafi (talk) 04:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I was reading the description for the Top Models Take it to the Streets, and it says that Dominique struggled with her photoshoot, which I think is wrong. Her photoshoot went very well, according to Jay and the judges. I can't change it, so somebody else has to do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.252.253.31 (talk) 22:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

contestants heights
im sure there are more girls that are 6'0 or over so don't be shocked if more girls are added —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smartie.Pantz4 (talk • contribs) 05:16, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

why is it that lauren is credited to be 6'1 if the source (her myspace) says that she is 6'0?? thank u Lucia (talk) 15:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Episode 7 Info
Somebody has put on the episode summaries two people that got in the bottom two for episode 7, and which person got eliminated. Episode 7 has yet to air, and they do not put a source for where they got this information. I think until that can be proven, it is better to remove the names for Episode 7 until we find their reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.138.235.143 (talk) 17:43, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

whitney's weight?
SORRY but where did we get that whitney weighs 216? source...anything? Lucia (talk) 02:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone probably thought it'd be funny to add it and added it. It's unsourced and most likely false. Sireafi (talk) 23:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Stacy Ann
Tyra said that Stacy Ann won the challenge though her team ended up winning. Shouldn't that be noted? Tyra specifically said that twice during the eliminations. 24.85.132.54 (talk) 03:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's said in the episode summary.
 * It should be said in the call-out order too. 24.85.132.54 (talk) 01:18, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Anya's accent?
Aakimenko (talk) 01:53, 7 April 2008 (UTC)Anybody knows where Anya is originally from? Aakimenko (talk) 01:53, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[Anya is from Russia, she was adopted from a Hawaiian family.] Kasix (talk) 02:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Call-out Order
Someone just added another fake call-out order. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.198.175 (talk) 04:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

International Destination
In the second paragraph of the page it states that the international destination is Makka Pakkas House,The night garden. This is not necessarily true for the episode has not aired. Also the sources cited are not considerably reliable. Should this information be deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by B165789309 (talk • contribs) 20:26, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * tv.com/tvguide.com/zap2it.com/thefutoncritic.com are all reliable as they use network sent summaries. They have all posted "Viva Italia!"'s summary and included "the girls go to Italy" or something of that accord while another had said "the girls go to Rome, Italy". Also, "We are Spartans!"'s photoshoot takes place in a Roman castle. Sireafi (talk) 22:41, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Challenge Wins
Should the group challenge wins be considered an individual win for the statistics (i.e. Claire holds the record this cycle for most collective challenge wins while two of the three have been group challenge wins.) I am only concerned because this seems strange to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by B165789309 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Episode 6 corrections
I think it should just be noted that, in episode 6, Claire was put into the bottom 2 for being too 'couture' for her theme - it was said that if she was more comical than it would have portrayed the theme better. I saw that it had originally said that Claire was too couture for her theme, but it has now been changed too 'comical' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.54.0 (talk) 14:36, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Call-out order
Fatima's episode 9 colour needs to be dark-blue, like Shannon's cycle 1. I thought turquoise was when the girl won CG of the week and got eliminated? 80.7.27.173 (talk) 11:07, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Who's editing this?
Some users keep editing topics without trustworthy sources. Please stop doing that. Dante 01:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Designer name for 'Viva Italia'
We need to find this, I'd edit it in if I could remember...Terra (talk) 01:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it's Gai Martiollo or something. Thanks for bringing it up but I believe it's already been edited. Dante 23:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

It's Gai Mattiolo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ANTM120 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Episode 7 corrections
On the table, it does not note the fact that Dominique won the challenge with her team on Episode 7 (her name is not blue like the other winners) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.177.32 (talk) 14:34, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

elimination?
Episode 11 has not been aired, yet under Contestants, (In order of elimination), it states that Katarzyna has been eliminated, which can't be proven since the nobody's seen the episode. Futier345 (talk) 22:44, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I was scared to death when I saw Katarzyna's name there; I hope she doesn't get eliminated. And yes, you're right, the article can't be edited without trustworthy sources. Dante 02:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

She's eliminated now. :( But st least she was the Covergirl of the Week in the same week. Futier345 (talk) 14:35, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Final rankings?
How come the call-out orders are all filled in? How are these accurate, when the shows haven't aired yet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.96.65.86 (talk) 00:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

why is Anya Kop listed as winner of Cycle 10? the final episode hasn't aired yet... Why is fatima put as winner and anya as runner-up when the episode won't air for a week Nobody knows who won! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.198.101.3 (talk) 16:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

People want to think that they're smart or funny by trying to ruin it all for the rest of us. From what I remember there was a user last cycle that went out of his way trying to be "cute"....its gonna happen for any reality show...people putting up spoilers Nemle22 (talk) 03:04, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

C'mon guys..
Calling Whitney a fat cow is pretty pathetic Get over it! She is not even FAT she has curves but she is not OBESE. Next thing you know people will be calling Anya a stupid blond when she is not even a true BLONDE! Be mature about this —Preceding unsigned comment added by KZKfool (talk • contribs) 00:25, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Go-See's in Rome
I wonder why in all the other Cycles the top five girls go on Go-See's for their first challenge in the international place. Why not this season? —Preceding unsigned comment added by KZKfool (talk • contribs) 00:33, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Didn't they already go? I thought they did, but in teams no? Oscar (talk) 19:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * That is correct Oscar but why would Tyra and the producers decide to deviate from the typical international go-see challenge. It was something that I was looking forward to, too see what the Italian designers thought of the different contestants. B165789309 (talk) 21:45, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, they did go the week Claire was eliminated....2 weeks before they were in Rome. Nemle22 (talk) 23:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * But in all the other cycles they had Go-See's in their international place and when they were still in America —Preceding unsigned comment added by KZKfool (talk • contribs) 01:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Sutan/Christian Marc
Why are they listed as guest stars? A) They work for the show. B) They're not "stars." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seven2 (talk • contribs) 05:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree and I'm wondering the reason for including them.In this case,we should include the whole cast,in front and behind camera.But,that is not possible.So,we shouldn't include them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ANTM120 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Winner
Why did Whitney win Cycle 10? She always looked fake. I definately think Anya should have won. I'm sort of glad a full figured girl won. But Anya was so much better! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nymetsgurl1 (talk • contribs) 01:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * This is not the place for discussion.  Terra skye   01:46, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * If only this weren't called the "discussion page"...B165789309 (talk) 17:21, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

If you want to share your opions about the winner, go on the ANTM message board and post your thoughts. Here's the link....    Soccer5525 (talk) 12:25, 7 June 2008 (UTC)Soccer5525

Vandalism
Can someone please fix the page? Someone wrote things like FATney Thompson, Anya is supposed to win, Whitney's fat 68.147.112.108 (talk) 01:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC) This must be stopped. The whole page is full of bad words about Whitney. Please look over it all, edit it and lock it so no users can edit it 68.147.112.108 (talk) 01:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.147.112.108 (talk) 01:51, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Whitney, really a plus-size?
Well, I read off a source, idk if its true but it says Whitney was recruited, not chosen and that she was not a plus-sized model at first, and they wanted her there to be a plus-size for her to win. And I'm saying that as a Whitney fan, so don't think I made all this stuff up but idk if this is geniune

Picture - http://fourfour.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/14/skinny_whitney.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agunimon (talk • contribs) 12:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering,too.I'm sure that Whintey looked like a common girl,Tyra wanted a plus-size model to win and they decided that Whintey could afford the weight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ANTM120 (talk • contribs) 22:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Cycle 11
I am new, but shouldn't someone make a cycle 11 page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alala96 (talk • contribs) 23:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily, if there's no information about it. ...  disco spinster   talk  00:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

There is info. IT will air this fall, the castings will be in los angeles. From NYT article, wit antm. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.225.232.193 (talk) 23:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

And they were spotted in amsterdam.

Shortest Contestant
who was the shortest contest of this cycle? and how short was she? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.221.166 (talk) 19:22, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Clearly it was Atalya ChaChaDiva... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.232.48.37 (talk) 10:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Where's the call out order?
I think someone removed it. And while we're at it, someone has vandalized some of the call out orders in the articles of previous cycles, (ie. cycle 9 and cycle 8), so someone might want to take a look at those. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oking83 (talk • contribs) 16:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Kim v.s. Kimberly
it says Kimberly, but on the show, they called her Kim.....how about we put Kimberly "Kim" Rydzewski? would that be fine? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.221.166 (talk) 19:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC) who cares. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.225.232.193 (talk) 21:48, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

That was rude, i liked Kim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.221.166 (talk) 18:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * "Kim" credited and used in the show. But, the name "Kimberly" has never used until her sudden exit on episode two. ApprenticeFan  talk  contribs 22:33, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Katarzyna
I think she'll need her own page. She's signed with Elite now. Fatima has a page and hasn't modeled... just interviews so Katarzyna should have one. And I realli don't feel like making one for Kat... so if someone else could make her a page...

Katarzyna
I think she'll need her own page. She's signed with Elite now. Fatima has a page and hasn't modeled... just interviews so Katarzyna should have one. And I realli don't feel like making one for Kat... so if someone else could make her a page... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.187.29.119 (talk) 22:51, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Atalya Slater and Lisa Jackson have a print ad in the October issue of The Source magazine —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iphone21 (talk • contribs) 22:18, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Episode Names?
I don't remember the episodes of this cycle having "The girl(s)...". I don't remember what they were exactly but are these episode names correct? I'm 99% sure they weren't aired like that. Coinboybrian (talk) 19:13, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ Fixed. :) SKS2K6 (talk) 19:20, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Katarzyna's Career Details
When I restored the article Katarzyna Dolinska, Whadaheck removed the career details here, but her article has been nominated for deletion ( see Articles_for_deletion/Katarzyna_Dolinska_(3rd_nomination) ). Since that could happen, I think it's important that her details remain here. ... Misty Willows   talk  12:41, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

What happened to her page? It seems to have vanished, and every time its been up for deletion, it has been kept as far as id seen. (Kyleofark (talk) 18:48, 4 June 2009 (UTC))
 * It was actually deleted multiple times (see the log) over the past year. It was kept once at the last AfD due to lack of consensus, but it was determined that intentionally or not, the existence of the page went around Wikipedia's guidelines (see the admin's talk page). SKS (talk) 19:03, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Episode 11 Photo Shoot
The photo shoot name is spelled incorrectly. It's Renaissance, not Reinassance. 79.107.18.195 (talk) 21:17, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:26, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Call-Out Order
For some time now the call out order has been wrong, can someone please change it. Bolivia13 (talk) 23:47, 25 October 2010 (UTC)


 * What is wrong about it? Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:56, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

On episode 11, the color indicates that Whitney was eliminated, while in fact she ended up winning the competition. On Episode 2, Lauren was left out of the chart. She should be after Whitnet. Also, in the chart, the number 4 spot in every episode, is to the right of the chart.67.209.220.240 (talk) 00:22, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Makeovers
I would like to request that makeovers be added. Here they are:

Allison - Big copper hair weave

Amis - Blonde hair weave

Marvita - Horse mane inspired hair weave

Aimee - Chopped off and dyed red

Claire - Hair shaved and bleached

Stacy Ann - Pixie haircut

Lauren - Blonde hair weave with red highlights

Katarzyna - Paulina Porizkova inspired brown hair, and, later, chopped off

Dominique - Dark brown cropped haircut; later, re-dyed dark blonde

Fatima - Waist-length chestnut brown hair weave

Anya - Trimmed and dyed platinum blonde

Whitney - Straight blonde hair extensions

--216.118.143.198 (talk) 20:01, 1 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, we can't include these per WP:OR and WP:POV. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:55, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
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Move discussion in progress
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Makeovers
This section is completely unsourced, and as far as I can see, from the editing pattern on this and other related articles, completely WP:OR. Who says any of this? Can the section be forthwith deleted? Sbalfour (talk) 22:23, 23 March 2019 (UTC)