Talk:America COMPETES Act

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Agreed -- Senate has not yet passed the reauthorization. Text corrected. Terminalwally (talk) 15:08, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

2010 act is not law yet - fix this! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.111.15.145 (talk) 13:36, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure why this is redirecting to the Research page. The two do not seem to be related. I added this in my edit comments, but my edit was reverted.

I agree. At least leave the page blank until more info is found. Kimberly M. (talk) 21:30, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Dead link

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/08/20070809-6.html

Full Decent (talk) 19:00, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm trying to put more meat on the bones of this page. I cannot find any reference to 'Research and Development tax credits' in the legislation, so I am deleting that phrase from the page. Millerj870 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:48, 31 May 2010 (UTC).

With the addition of concrete information from the Act, the following seemed redundant and less than informative ... the creation of a Teacher Corps program (reference to legislation?), an increase in skilled workers visas and increased science funding (reference to legislation?). so I deleted it. What is now here on the Act of 2007 probably needs some smoothing out, but the content seems complete and well-references. Millerj870 (talk) 18:20, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Next I want to put links from the article to the various NSF programs that are mentioned by name. The links should go to the NSF solicitations. Millerj870 (talk) 18:23, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

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I read about the COMPETES Act in the Washington Post and came here to find out more about it. This is 6,000 words of dense text mostly copied or paraphrased from the original text, which is discouraged by WP:OR, and it's difficult to figure out what's really going on. If I were an editor, or an instructor, I would tell the writer to tear it up and start over.

Failing that, I would start out by condensing all the profuse wordage, such as, "The America COMPETES Act of 2007 has many provisions in its 146 pages."

Wikipedia is supposed to be sourced from WP:RS which has the effect of filtering it through books and articles written by people who understand the bill and can identify what's really going on.

For example, https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/26/competes-act-congress-us-seminconductors-fall-behind-china/ "Semiconductor legislation failures show why the U.S. struggles to compete," Washington Post, by David Ignatius, which says that the bill has fallen victim to the "Christmas tree" effect, which means that because it's a must-pass bill, congressmen are attaching their pet projects to it.

What is this bill really doing? One major provision is immigration, which is supposed to make it easier for foreign STEM workers to get Green Cards and citizenship. This is described for example in the secondary source WP:RS https://immigrationforum.org/article/analysis-immigration-provisions-in-the-america-competes-act/ Analysis: Immigration Provisions in the America COMPETES Act. As part of the Christmas tree, this bill includes provisions for considering Hong Kongers and Uyghurs as eligible for asylum, and for granting citizenship to non-citizen adoptees of American citizens.

The conventional wisdom is that international trade provisions have winners and losers. I'd like to see what WP:RS say about what the COMPETE Act does to compensate the American workers who are displaced by highly-educated immigrants. And the provisions for helping American students get STEM education as described in this entry are pretty confusing. It seems like a laundry list (or Christmas list) of uncoordinated pet projects. I'd like to know what science educators think we need and whether this bill meets those needs.

I'm going to see whether Science magazine has covered this. They're usually good at getting to the point. --Nbauman (talk) 17:20, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


 * yup, I just checked Science magazine and they have more stories than I can count. Try a Google search for site:science.org “America Competes Act” 2022 . (Unfortunately Google doesn't list them by date.) There's a lot of controversy, and a lot of people found a lot of problems with it, for example, on immigration and geographical distribution of the funding. --Nbauman (talk) 17:34, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

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