Talk:American Hustle/Archive 1

Proposed merge with List of accolades received by American Hustle (2013 film)
I really don't see why this table should be split off to a separate article. Q VVERTYVS (hm?) 12:47, 21 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Author oppose - I split it because when a film breaks about 60 nominations, and it has a table such as this, it takes up a massive amount of article space that isn't necessary. Ideally, someone (probably me at some point) will write a section under Accolades for the most notable award nominations and wins, but trust me, the film has so many accolades already that it's only going to get more cluttered.  Corvoe  (speak to me)  14:09, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lists_of_accolades_by_film - this a very common practice on Wikipedia, there are dozens of Featured Lists on here that have followed the same precedent. Every year the big Oscar players have split articles, this year we've already had 12 Years a Slave, Gravity, Her and Nebraska. Bruce Campbell (talk) 19:37, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Alright, withdrawn. Q VVERTYVS (hm?) 16:36, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Obvious De Niro/Scorsese influence
Very surprised to see no reviewer drew comparisons. The film was obviously heavily influenced primarily by Casino (film) and films like Goodfellas, Donnie Brasco and American Gangster. It was like watching an amalgam of ideas and styles from all of those films combined, mainly Casino and Donnie Brasco. Bale's character is so obviously based on De Niro in Casino and Lawrence's character influenced by Sharon Stone's character. Even some of the lines are copied like "It's a sign of disrespect" from Casino where the guy where the guy has his boots on the table and is sent out and beaten up by Joe Pesci. It lacked the polish and cohesion to be an authentic Scorsese picture but it did a pretty good job of impersonating it. De Niro had a role in it but not credited? I suppose he gave first hand help to Bale with his mannerisms!♦ Dr. Blofeld  22:12, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Find a review that mentions it, add it to the Reception section. I don't see it myself. -- 109.76.116.125 (talk) 17:48, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Soundtrack section
Came to the page to look up the soundtrack, there's nothing listed. So I'm creating one. The music used in the film is a big part of its marketing and appeal. Walterego (talk) 15:13, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

In 1978, Estonia was a part of the Soviet Union ...
... so what ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.127.168.162 (talk) 18:23, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Entrapment
The article currently includes this sentence:
 * Richie devises a plan to entrap Carmine, despite the objections of Irving and of Richie's boss, Stoddard Thorsen.

But, as the linked article explains, it would be a legal defense for Carmine to show that the FBI had entrapped him. Many criminal defendants, especially those arrested in sting operations, claim that they were entrapped. The FBI would certainly not plan to entrap the subject of an investigation.

I notice there's a sting operation article. I'll rephrase that sentence and link to that. TypoBoy (talk) 02:33, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Plot
There must be a way to make the plot section shorter...--MJ for U (talk) 05:39, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Citation for Senator Harrison A.Williams
Why is a citation required for Anthony Zerbe playing a character based on Harrison A Williams, considering that he was mentioned as a senator in the film and Harrison was the only senator involved with Abscam. Humongous125 (talk) 14:21, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Genre
The movie isn't a comedy, nor a drama. It isn't even a comedy-drama. I suggest to leave it as a "crime film". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.180.17.237 (talk) 08:14, 31 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Third party articles and reviews refer to it as a comedy or a comedy drama. --Tenebrae (talk) 14:00, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Neither is it a black comedy. Black comedy is exclusively comedy about death, dying, terminal illness, bereavement, or misfortune so severe that it is conventinally taboo to treat it in less than sensitive or reverent terms, rather than comedic. The expression is an abbreviation of 'comedy with black edges' referring to funeral invitation cards or announcements in the press (or as flyposters on street walls in some countries, Italy for example) which are printed with thick black borders or edges. American Hustle has nothing to do with death. It is not even a comedy. It is a crime drama with some witty moments, yet barely more so than, say, Taxi Driver. Most of the film's wit is provided by only a single character, Jennifer Lawrence's, whose studied performance is Oscar-worthy. Hypothetically remove her from the script and one would find much less to laugh at. Likeamanshand (talk) 09:18, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

is wikipedia shilling for hollywood now?
This film was broadly criticized for being overly derivative of Scorsese films. No mention of that anywhere. I think we need to readdress the balance, when it comes to critical response, as this whole page reads as hagiography, or worse, advertisement by proxy. Surely criticism should actually include criticism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.251.12 (talk) 06:18, 5 January 2014 (UTC)


 * If you can find a reliable source that makes this "derivative-of-Scorsese" comparison, then by all means add the information and the reference to back it up. Invertzoo (talk) 00:24, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Critical plot detail
In the interest of building consensus, I restored a plot detail made by Icyicy00 regarding the revelation of the $2M wire fraud scam pulled on Richie DiMaso. Without this detail, which is crucial to the climax of the film (Irv and Sydney getting away nearly scot-free as opposed to jail sentences or worse), it makes no sense why the $2M would be missing, why Richie's career would end because of it, etc.Porterhse (talk) 06:40, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

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is there any way to add more information about the film into this article? — Dqp5391 (talk) 02:33, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Sony Hack
How come there is no mention of the Sony hack here? One of the big revelations from the Sony hack was that the disparity in pay between the actors and actresses in this film. This was big news at the time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schnapps17 (talk • contribs) 22:50, 4 December 2016 (UTC)


 * The wage gap could be mentioned without necessarily mentioning the Sony Hack. If the wage gap is notable enough to include it should probably focus on the fact that Amy Adams got a lousy deal "if anyone has a beef, it would be her". Alternatively it might be interesting if the article simply and objectively stated cast pay, as part of the Production details. -- 109.78.213.7 (talk) 22:29, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

LGBT related?
Why is this film assigned several LGBT-related categories, just because of the kiss between Lawrence and Adams? Doceddi (talk) 22:33, 14 April 2022 (UTC)