Talk:American Philosophical Society

Founding of the University of Pennsylvania
The date "1740" for the founding of the University of Pennsylvania is fictitious. There was no college in Philadelphia until 1755. Franklin and others attempted to found a charity school ca. 1740 that never met nor taught classes. In 1751 they successsfully opened an Academy in Philadelphia that latter developed into a higher school or college and much later into a university.

There has never been any particular association between the APS and the Univ. of Penna. except perhaps that they share some members. There has never been any institutional connection.

This acticle needs considerable work! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.160.218.42 (talk) 01:04, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll just second this comment. The University of Pennsylvania has gotten away for years with inflating the date of their founding. [And I'm an alumnus!] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.15.139.37 (talk) 21:18, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Past members
How should they be listed?

Here is a member, Eli Kirk Price. Where should people not of the staure of Franklin be fit into the article? --151.197.123.166 03:02, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Foundation Date
Farley Grubb stated in his paper "Benjamin Franklin and the birth of a perper money Economy" that the Junto discussion group was founded in 1727 which eventually became the American Philosophical society. Not 1743. Jackzhp 22:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Founding members
Did I read something wrong? According to (what appears to be) a reliable source, here (page 5; last paragraph), among others including Dr. Franklin and Francis Hopkinson, William Alexander (Lord Stirling) founded the American Philosophical Society. The reference goes as far as to say it was not his being a lawyer, politician, or statesman that he was distinguished for but co-founding the society. Can someone shed some light on this? Otr500 (talk) 20:53, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
 * On what? BMK (talk) 21:17, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Please forgive me! My Latin translation is lacking. In the article and section, being American Philosophical Society (first sentence), the article proclaims "Originally called the Philosophical Society, the Society was founded in 1743 by Benjamin Franklin and John Bartram". The source above appears to be reliable, and as such there were more than just two founders as the article shows, and in fact there shows to be several (and others), and I think this worthy of mention. Otr500 (talk) 01:23, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, I uderstand now. I can't provide any further info, but I have added William Alexander and "others" as founders of the society, and cited the ref you provided. BMK (talk) 04:17, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Otr500 (talk) 04:53, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Placement of Early luminaries in History section
There's a dispute between User:Beyond My Ken and myself about where the paragraph containing the list of early luminaries (i.e. Washington, Madison) who were members should go:


 * My version can be found here. I believe the early luminaries paragraph should be moved
 * Ken's version can be found . He undid my revision giving the sole reason "better before" and no additional explanation.  I believe this revision isn't "better", because in this version. talk about the founding, then jump to who were members post-1767 (in some cases post-1800), then jump back to before the 1760s (before Washington, Madison, and the other people listed were members).  It maintains chronological continuity to move the early luminaries list to the paragraph before the later luminaries (i.e. the one with Darwin), and perhaps it makes sense to split those lists into a separate subsection.  p  b  p  20:23, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

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