Talk:Amputation

Alien
Why is there a picture of an alien in the beginning of this article? 71.255.253.219 04:03, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Things like that is considered vandalism and should be deleted and reported ASAP. Montgomery' 39 17:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Montgomery '39 (talk • contribs)

foot
Is the picture of the infected foot really necessary? I suspect some readers will find it extremely disturbing. And it doesn't seem to add anything to the article. I suggest it be removed. -Danorris 03:49, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree. But I think a suitable replacement picture should be found before it is deleted.DanP 18:17, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Removed&mdash;it really was disturbing, and added nothing to the text. If no suitable picture is available, then by definition the article goes without.  &mdash;Simon 00:51, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

inquiry into first picture
who is the girl in the picture? it might be relevant whether her amputation was done deliberately or was necessary.Evilbu 22:48, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Accidental Amputation
No word on accidental amputation? Mines... industrial accidents... etc.? What about the effects of such accidents... shock, blood loss, etc.?Angrynight 15:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Amputechture
I am a fan of The Mars Volta, and I read on a forum about their album's title that amputechture was a filmy substance that builds up after an amputation. Is this true?
 * No, it is a made up word.

It is amputation and architecture. As in artistic amputation. MM

Body integrity identity disorder
Is it worth mentioning Body integrity identity disorder here? I actually came to this page looking for it because I didn't remember what the disorder was called.142.59.135.116 06:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree, it should be. MM

Dog
Are the pictures of the dog necessary? I don't think that they add anything to the page. I could understand if they illustrated improvement after an amputation, next do a brief description, but as it is it appears like someones pet that they want on the internet... MM

Everyone likes cute animals, hopefully that can make them feel less disturbed by some of the other photos.

misinformation
only saudi arabia of all Islamic countries preform amputation as a punishment for crimes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.54.184.83 (talk) 22:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC).

minor amputations or mutilations as a ritual accomplishment =?= circumcision
"In some cultures and religions, minor amputations or mutilations are considered a ritual accomplishment." Does this include circumcision? If so, it should be internally linked to within the text or under see also. Regards, —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 19:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Nevermind, just saw it has been added and reverted already. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 13:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Contradiction of the Dactyly article
This article contradicts the Dactyly article, which says:

Hypodactyly is having too few digits when not caused by an amputation.

Then when you click on the link, it tells you that the condition is caused by "the removal of a body extremity by trauma (also referred to as avulsion) or surgery". Keshidragon 22:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Well...then remove the reference in the aputation article....the other page should be right. Patrick Flynn


 * I'm sorry, but I don't see the contradition. When you have to few digits not due to amputation (i.e., congenitally) then it's hypodactyly.  When you have a body extremity (including fingers) removed by trama or surgery, then it's amputation (that is, too few fingers due to amputation).  In one case, you are born with it, in the other it's a surgical procedure, and the hypodactyly article is simply making it clear that too fingers due to amputation does not count as hypodactyly.  Where's the contradition there? Edhubbard 08:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

More detail?
I know very little about how wikipedia actually works, so I hope I don't violate any rules of wikipedia here. The only edits I've done on other articles have been basic grammar corrections.

I go to wikipedia for a quick refernce on everything. So I ended up here when I found out my brother-in-law is about to have his left leg amputated and I wanted some idea of what was involved. I came to wikipedia, as always, for a basic idea of what this involves, and I've found it a shade wanting. How the process actually works and side-effects (other than phantom limb) are entirely untouched. This article even includes a dead link to "transected". I have no idea what "transected" means.

While I know this page isn't a FAQ, allow me to propose some ideas that could be addressed: What does amputation actually involve? In the dark ages we propbably just cut everything off with an axe, but I'd imagine times have changed. This doesn't seem to be addressed in the article. And a couple more points:

While the article mentions the side-effect of phantom limbs, I'd imagins there are a lot more side-effects. Can these be discussed in the article?

How does the circulovasculatory system compensate for a loss in distribution area?

I didn't see anything in the article about how amputation in actually performed. I think the article would do well to point out how amputation is done now as well in the past.

I don't mean this as a criticism at all. The article as a whole sticks to NPOV, and has a lot of detail, but I feel that it really could be expanded and I'm not qualified to do it.

I'm going to whack ~ a few times and hope that's hope I actually 'sign' this comment. 75.163.180.24 06:21, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

As a Physio interested in learning more about amputations, in order to treat a patient with a trans-femoral amputation, I started my search here, and feel that there are quite a few topics missing. I would like to know more about the surgery involved - how are the muscles reattached, what are the considerations when deciding where to cut (other than to remove all damaged/infected tissue), what happens to the nerve endings, how is a good blood supply maintained in the stump (does a capilliary bed form naturally or is it constructed)? etc. I had understood that peripheral vascular disease was the main cause of amputation - this cause is not cited (or is sepsis with peripheral necrosis the same thing - perhaps UK v US language?) The list of famous amputees does not seem to include anyone who has lost limbs due to PVD. When looking up PVD when I first came across it at Uni, I remember a shocking picture of a patient who had just had a bilateral upper limb amputation, whose 'friend' had rigged up a devise to enable him to smoke, using a metal coathanger - this might be an appropriate addition to the article if anyone knows where to find it. I understand that neuroma can be a problem with amputation - could there be a link to this topic perhaps? Also, are the flesh coloured foam coverings used over prosthetic lower limbs also called cosmeses as they don't seem to be the same thing as described in the article, as they are fairly basic and only really give the prosthesis a basically similar shape to a natural limb, and they still look artificial even at a distance? My patient says that the walls of the amputees clinic are covered with awe inspiring pictures of people wearing prosthetic limbs using climbing walls, fixing lorries (soldiers)etc - could some positive images like these be included?Skphysio (talk) 14:19, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Amputation and Islamic Law
I changed "some Islamic authourities are calling for a moratorium upon [corporal punishment] until equality, welfare and social justice exist in the Muslim world, as stealing out of desperation, deprivation or adverse social circumstances should not be punished" (emphasis mine), since the italicised clause did not seem to derive from the article cited. Based on the cited article about an Islamic scholar, I replaced the italicised clause with, "pending developments in Islamic law." --72.150.58.61 (talk) 00:04, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Copyediting needed?
I'm wondering why there is a copyedit tag on this page. Sure, it may need some additional information, but the article is on the whole fairly well written IMO. I'm removing the copyedit tag for the time being, as I see no real reason for it to remain. If you want additional information to be added, please use the appropriate tag.KaylaraOwl (talk) 19:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

List
The list is getting a bit long - I propose splitting it off into a separate article or turning it into a category. The 'in fiction' section needs each to be sourced and to be thinned out to the most notable. Brilliantine (talk) 19:43, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

straw poll for image adition
This article has no images. Please vote: --Enric Naval (talk) 05:14, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * A - amputated begging
 * B - amputated soldier trying a phrostetic limb
 * C - brutal torture with amputation
 * D - none of these images is adequate

Olegwiki (talk) 06:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * D - We could go with B in a pinch but I am sure there are better images out there. I believe that A and C are inappropriate as general illustrations of the concept. What we need is a simple, clear image showing a person with an amputation. - EronTalk 05:21, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * If you new Russian you would understand that C (Kersnovskaya's picture) is not a picture of either torture or amputation but it is putting a broken arm of a prisoner in a plaster cast! Yes, it is painful since it is being performed without anethestization. Kersnovskaya worked as a nurse in a prison camp and helped to perform such procedures.


 * These are the only ones I could find in Commons :( Maybe in a couple years there will be better ones... --Enric Naval (talk) 07:01, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * What about all those three-legged dog pictures? Okay, I'm kidding. I agree there is not a lot on Commons but there may be other free pictures out there. Or perhaps some Wikipedian with an amputation (or who knows someone) could get a picture and contribute it. (After all, there seems to be no shortage of people willing to offer up pictures of their genitals to illustrate the appropriate articles...) - EronTalk 16:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

At the end I went ahead and added two images that I hadn't noticed when I opened the straw poll:

Can someone move them around a bit so they don't break the format? I'm not very good at placing photographies.... --Enric Naval (talk) 08:15, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * File:Hans_von_Gersdorff_-_amputation.jpg woodcut of an amputation in a 1537 book, in the history section.
 * File:JohnMcFall-Manchester-20070513.jpg Atlethe with above-knee amputation, with a prosthetic leg, sprinter and winner of a gold medal at Paralympic World Cup

Another possibility
Fences and windows (talk) 00:53, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

And here's some from Flickr:
 * US civil war, amputated foot
 * Malaysian boy with double lower leg amputation
 * US civil war, amputated forearm
 * US civil war, all four limbs lost to frostbite
 * I would've suggested this, but it looks like someone has been playing with photoshop, so a no-no. Fences and windows (talk) 01:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Could Neoplasm..
Could neoplasm be changed to cancer? I know it's the same thing but not everybody knows what a neoplasm is.- BennyK95 - Talk  23:09, October 8 2009 (UTC)

Notable amputee of person
I took the liberty to delete "Jamel Debbouze— Popular French actor and comedian; lost his right hand while crossing a railway in childhood." from the notable amputee list. Jamel Debouzze lost the use of his arm in this accident, but wasn't amputated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1001Bob (talk • contribs) 21:58, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Iran
Googling amputation iran gives a good bunch of recent amputations of thieves in Iran. As recently as 2008 the NYT reported that amputation was a legal punishment since 1979. If this punishment is outlawed in Iran, then please cite sources for the outlawing. --Enric Naval (talk) 13:39, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Notable amputees
Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:33, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Joseph Trumpeldor; an early Zionist activist; lost his arm in 1904, during the Russo-Japanese War.
 * Sir Roden Cutler VC; 32nd Governor of New South Wales; lost his leg after injuries sustained during World War II
 * Rick Allen—drummer for the band Def Leppard; lost his left arm in a car accident.
 * Arthur Askey—comedian; had both legs amputated due to circulatory disease.
 * Walid bin 'Attash—member of Al-Qaeda; lost his right leg fighting the Northern Alliance in 1997.
 * Douglas Bader—Royal Air Force fighter pilot during World War II; lost both legs performing low-flying aerobatics, but continued to fly and even engaged in escape attempts as a POW of the Germans.
 * Alexey Maresyev—Russian fighter pilot during World War II; lost both legs after being shot down in a dog fight; returned to the front a year later and continued flying completing 86 combat missions; awarded Hero of the Soviet Union Gold Star.
 * Lucien Bouchard—Canadian politician and Quebec nationalist; lost a leg to necrotizing fasciitis.
 * Mariana Bridi Costa—Brazilian model and beauty queen; suffered several amputations in a failed attempt to save her life. Lost all of both hands and feet. Died at age 20 on January 24, 2009 of septicemia resulting from Pseudomonas aeruginosa infection that quickly spread throughout her body.
 * Jim Byrnes—American actor; lost both legs above the knee in a vehicle accident.
 * Roberto Carlos—Brazilian singer; had the lower half of his left leg slashed off by a train wheel in his teenage years.
 * Ronald D. Castille—Chief Justice of the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court and former Philadelphia District Attorney; lost his leg in the Vietnam War.
 * Lars Grael—Brazilian windsurfing champion; his right leg was sliced off by a private boat's chopper engine in a sea accident.
 * Wagner Montes—Brazilian journalist and politician; his motorbike crushed the lower half of his right leg against a lamppost.
 * Max Cleland—former U.S. Senator; lost both legs and right forearm following injuries inflicted by a fellow soldier's grenade in the Vietnam War.
 * Richard Collier—American Football Player; lost left leg after a shooting incident in Jacksonville, Florida.
 * Denzil Connick the co-founder and secretary of the South Atlantic Medal Association formed in 1997. He served with 3 PARA during the 1982 Falklands War and lost a leg during the Battle of Mount Longdon.
 * Dadullah—Taliban military commander; lost a leg fighting against Soviet occupation in the 1980s.
 * James Doohan—Canadian actor best known as Montgomery Scott on Star Trek; lost right middle finger in friendly fire incident on Juno Beach during the Normandy landings.
 * Dave Dravecky—Major League Baseball pitcher with the San Diego Padres and San Francisco Giants; lost left arm to cancer complications.
 * Tammy Duckworth—American politician; lost both legs in the Iraq War.
 * Graham Edwards—Australian politician; lost both legs in the Vietnam War.
 * Rahm Emanuel—White House Chief of Staff; lost part of his finger to a meat slicer while an employee at Arby's as a teenager.
 * George Eyser American gymnast, he competed in the 1904 Summer Olympics, earning six medals in one day, including three gold and two silver medals. Eyser competed with a wooden prosthesis for a left leg.
 * Lindsay Ess—quadruple amputee and teacher at Virginia Commonwealth University
 * Ella Fitzgerald—American jazz musician; lost leg to diabetes
 * Terry Fox—Canadian athlete and cancer treatment activist; lost a leg to cancer.
 * Edward M. Kennedy, Jr.- American entrepreneur, investment banker and lawyer. Son of the late Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Sr.. He lost rignt leg due to cancer.
 * Khujo Goodie—rapper, member of the hip hop group Goodie Mob, lost bottom right leg in a car accident
 * Zach Gowen—American professional wrestler; lost a leg to cancer as a child.
 * Bethany Hamilton—American surfer; lost an arm to a shark attack.
 * Robert David Hall—American actor, lost both legs due to a vehicle accident with a semi.
 * Burkhard Heim—German theoretical physicist; lost both hands in a laboratory explosion.
 * Lord Uxbridge—British; lost his leg during the Battle of Waterloo
 * Daniel Ken Inouye—Medal of Honor recipient, U.S. Senator; World War II war hero; lost his right arm due to battle wounds.
 * Tony Iommi&mdash;guitarist for Black Sabbath; lost the tips of middle and ring fingers in an industrial accident at 17.
 * Stonewall Jackson—Confederate general during the American Civil War; had his left arm amputated by Dr. Hunter McGuire on May 2, 1863 only to die eight days later on May 10, 1863.
 * Peter Lalor—Australian politician and leader of the Eureka Stockade rebellion, a battle often characterised as the "birth of democracy" in Australia. Had his left arm amputated due to injuries sustained during the uprising.
 * Matthias Lanzinger—Austrian Alpine skier; lost leg after fracturing his shin and fibula during a World Cup Super-G run at Kvitfjell, Norway.
 * Harold Lloyd—American film actor and producer, most famous for his silent comedies. Lost his right thumb and index finger during an accident on the set of Haunted Spooks.
 * Bruce Marshall—Scottish novelist and author; lost leg as a result of wounds suffered in World War I.
 * Kyle Maynard, an American motivational speaker and athlete.
 * Heather Mills—ex-wife of former Beatle Paul McCartney as well as an activist and former model; lost left leg six inches below the kneecap in an accident where she was hit by a police motorcycle.
 * Aimee Mullins—American model and athlete; lost both legs due to congenital disease.
 * Horatio Nelson—(England) British Naval commander during Napoleonic war. Lost right arm and eye during various sea battles. Defeated Villeneuve during the Battle of Trafalgar.
 * Oscar Pistorius—South African sprinter; lost both legs due to a congenital disorder.
 * Hans-Ulrich Rudel—German; WWII pilot, leg amputated below the knee.
 * Daniel Scioli—former Vicepresident of Argentina; lost right arm during a boat race.
 * Eric Shinseki—Incumbent Secretary of Veterans Affairs, retired U.S. Army four-star general, and Army Chief of Staff during early stages of the War on Terrorism and Iraq War; lost part of foot in a land mine explosion during Vietnam War.
 * Daniel Sickles—American Politician and Civil War General; lost his leg during the Battle of Gettysburg.
 * Darío Silva—Uruguayan footballer; lost his right leg after a car accident.
 * Deke Slayton—Mercury Seven astronaut; lost a finger as a child in a farming accident.
 * Claus von Stauffenberg — German Colonel who lost his right hand during World War II; mastermind behind a failed attempt to assassinate Hitler;
 * Edward Teller — Physicist; lost his leg from the knee down after he jumped from a train station platform trying to catch a train.
 * John Tester —U.S. Senator; as a child, lost the middle, index, and ring finger on his left hand in an accident while working with a meat grinder.
 * Fred Titmus, former English Test cricketer and professional footballer, who lost four toes while swimming, when his foot got caught up with a boat propeller.
 * Lee Van Cleef —American actor; lost the tip of his middle finger on his right hand while building a playhouse for his daughter.
 * Kerry Von Erich American wrestler "The Texas Tornado", lost right foot in motorcycle accident but continued his wrestling career with a prosthetic foot.
 * Pyotr Nikolayevich Vlasov—Russian photographer; lost his left thumb, index finger, and middle finger, as well as an inch of his right index finger, when dynamite exploded in his hands in the coal mine where he worked as a teenager during World War II.
 * Paul Wittgenstein — Austrian-born pianist, brother of philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein; lost right arm during World War I.
 * Alex Zanardi—Italian car racing driver; lost both legs in a CART car accident at Lausitzring then returned to race in the World Touring Car Championship.
 * Natalie du Toit — South African swimmer, after George Eyser, became the second amputee ever to qualify for the Olympics, where she placed 16th in the 10 km Marathon.
 * Patrick Watson— Canadian broadcaster, author, commentator and television writer, producer and director, lost his left leg above the knee in 1960 following an accident.
 * Amy Palmiero-Winters — American ultramarathon runner; first amputee to compete on a senior able-bodied nationals team in any sport, took 19th place at the 2010 World 24-Hour Championship after running 129 miles in 24 hours, winner of the 2010 Sullivan Award and a 2010 ESPY, first amputee to finish the Western States Endurance Race; missing one lower leg and foot due to a motorcycle accident.
 * Raissa Laurel - A Filipina law student and one of the victim of the 2010 bar examination blast in Manila, Philippines. She lost both lower legs after the bombing incident.
 * Josh Sundquist — American Paralympic ski racer, best-selling author, motivational speaker, and YouTube personality; lost his leg to childhood cancer.

This article is a stub
Okay, not really. But wouldn't that be great? Justintbassett (talk) 16:08, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, no. Not only is the article, factually, not a stub, but thinking that it would be funny is offensive to the 1.7 million people in the U.S. (and certainly more worldwide) who are amputees .  These people are soldiers, firefighters, police officers, people with diabetes and hundreds of thousands of average people who have lost limbs in horrific circumstances.  This a medical article, and is not the place for schoolboy humor. Edhubbard (talk) 21:23, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't see a problem with stubs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.3.18.107 (talk) 06:12, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Merge proposal
A merge has been requested. I am new to wikipedia, so I dont know the proper polite protocol to do this. But I would like to ask, how is this page different from the page on "amputation"?

Should this page be merged?

Shon Lee (talk) 05:24, 16 May 2011 (UTC) formatted and assisted by Cliff (talk) 15:10, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the merge is a good idea, neither article is too long, and the information in each article complements the other very well. Cliff (talk) 15:20, 26 May 2011 (UTC)


 * What page merge to what page? -- Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:21, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Found it merge away. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 15:22, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks doc, didn't realize that the merge isn't clear here. The proposal is to merge Traumatic amputation to Amputation. Cliff (talk) 15:32, 26 May 2011 (UTC)


 * My verge was reverted because Cliff thought I lost too much information. I understand the need for discussion, so here is a few thoughts I have about what I have done and what I might have missed. The causes, classification, and treatment sections of [traumatic amputation] is very well covered in [amputation] so, I believe no significant loss of information there. I left out the Indications - Contraindications section.I cant find the source it was referencing. I think that section needs a lot more work. For the Epidemiology section, I added a statistic similar to the first statistic in the traumatic amputation article from a different source, and I neglected the second one about distribution of amputees on profession. I might have missed out some advances in amputation outlined in the introduction as well.Shon Lee (talk) 17:08, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I oppose the merge. The concept of traumatic amputation is much different than the condition of medical amputation done under controlled circumstances. --Arcadian (talk) 13:10, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I think if you remove the advances in medical amputation, the section about social amputation, the "treatments section", which is mostly covered in the amputations article, the remaining article would be so short that we should merge it anyway. Maybe give it a subsection in amputation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shon Lee (talk • contribs) 19:11, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Support a merge (possibly a subsection - subsections for above knee, below knee and arm amputations would also be useful). I've been editing a lot of Paralympic athletes pages, including those of several traumatic amputees. All have been wikilinked to amputation rather than traumatic amputation. Sportygeek (talk) 22:12, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The content of the article is in entirety contained within this article. As the merge request has been placed for over two years I can only conclude that there have been no significant objections. In this light I have completed the merge. LT90001 (talk) 11:00, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject
I added WikiProject Medicine, with Quality = B, Importance = High. I would've put it at Top Importance, but I figured that that would be too bold, given that I was just adding a WikiProject. Okay?--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 14:29, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I meant WikiProject Disability.--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 02:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

External links modified
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Epidemiology
There were 1,285,000 persons in the U.S. living with the limb loss (excluding fingers and toes) in 1996. 50,000 new amputations every year in USA based on information from National Center for Health Statistics.

In 2015, there were 1.5 million amputees in the USA. 

Another source: There are nearly 2 million people living with limb loss in the United States. (Source: Ziegler‐Graham K, MacKenzie EJ, Ephraim PL, Travison TG, Brookmeyer R. Estimating the Prevalence of Limb Loss in the United States: 2005 to 2050. Archives of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation2008;89(3):422‐9.) Approximately 185,000 amputations occur in the United States each year. (Source: Owings M, Kozak LJ, National Center for Health S. Ambulatory and Inpatient Procedures in the United States, 1996. Hyattsville, Md.: U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Health Statistics; 1998.) -

—  Ark25  (talk) 20:27, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Amputation in popular culture

 * The Pobble Who Has No Toes by Edward Lear. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 21:17, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

"some countries", really? Not Islamic countries with sharia?
They are not "some countries". They are Islamic countries that are ruled with sharia. Refer to them as what they are. They aren't just random countries. You cannot refer to human rights violation as "some countries" and their diverse cultural laws. This is human rights violation by the sharia law of Islamic countries.

All cats are british (talk) 14:00, 16 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Sharia Law is a vague term that applies to both criminal and non-criminal law. There are countries using Sharia law that do not use amputation as punishment, and frankly a discussion of the scope that this topic may need is outside the realm of the opening paragraph of an article about amputation. -Tax Fraud! [she/they] (talk &#124; contrib.) 19:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Then don't list the countries if you're not going to mention their religious law. All cats are british (talk) 22:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

They all are Islamic countries, not some random countries. Interesting how other language Wikipedia articles on amputation mention that they are Islamic countries? All cats are british (talk) 22:58, 17 April 2022 (UTC)


 * What other wikis do is irrelevant to this article. However, since it seems to be such a contentious point, I will remove the list of countries from the leading paragraph. -Tax Fraud! [she/they] (talk &#124; contrib.) 16:41, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Better now All cats are british (talk) 17:57, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Archaeologists find successful amputee from about 31,000 years ago
There is no section on history in the article. Perhaps it would be a good addition, especially in light of this new study.

Peaceray (talk) 18:37, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Ritual amputations of fingers are apparently depicted in many cave paintings as well. Jarble (talk) 00:30, 26 December 2023 (UTC)