Talk:Animutation

The Age of 13
"The style was popularized, if not invented, by Neil Cicierega (aka Trapezoid) at the age of 13, an 18-year-old student from Kingston, Massachusetts."

Okay, call me stupid, but isn't the above sentence a bit ambiguous? What is "the age of 13": the 18-year-old student (in which case it's an error), or the style (which considering that Macromedia Flash hasn't really had an influence extending that far back in time, I would assume an error as well). So I know it's screwed-up, but how? I'm assuming that the "18-year-old student" part is extraneous, and that author was going for:

"The style was popularized, if not invented, by Neil Cicierega (A.K.A. Trapezoid), a 13-year-old student from Kingston, Massachusetts."

Did I get the jist of the problem? Eliminating the update on Neil midway through the sentence may have cleared the problem up. (Crtrue)

Albino Blacksheep history
Are we allowed to just reproduce other people's text verbatim? It's not even paraphrased, but it's made to look like it is. Keep in mind that Wikipedia is under the GNU FDL, so text incorporated has to be under the same or a compatible license, or public domain. Did anyone get permission from ABS to use that?

Proffessionalism
So yeah, at present I feel this article has lots of POVness. Also, questionable assurances such as "Animutation should become mainstream in a few years" probably don't belong here. For cleanup, I'm not sure where to begin, but I'll do my best to rally interested folk from the ABS forums. Jesset77 09:21, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Link
Does anybody know what the protocol is for wikipedias for specifics things- like the fanimutation wiki, is it right being under internal link?


 * FanimutationWiki is not a wikipedia, so it should remain as an external link. —AdamAtlas 06:59, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

AfD result
&mdash; J I P  | Talk 07:59, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Behind The Music That Sucks
The first time I saw this kind of animation was on a show on Fuse TV called "Behind the Music that Sucks" (hereinafter, "BTMTS"). Having stumbled across this article, I looked for a reference to that show and couldn't find it. I've now located a web site "Heavy.com" that features BTMTS as well as another "channel" called "Kung Faux" which was also shown on Fuse. Any info on connections between these various phenomena? --Davecampbell 18:36, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Other than the whole Monty Python-style animation dealie, no. There are lots of things which use the animated cut-outs, but actually have some coherency to them. 71.231.56.40 21:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The Death of Culture
This is. gohlkus 17:52, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow, how relevant.

Cleanup
I just wiped out a big chunk of this article. Unverifiable, non-notable info doesn't really have a place here. Just as YTMND has the YTMND wiki, so is there an Animutation wiki, and that is the place for the majority of this information, not here. Please discuss here. --Dwiki 06:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Also needs dead link cleanup, most links not working — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smokeycastle (talk • contribs) 08:45, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Lead Paragraph
Who are the intended viewers?199.126.28.20 07:31, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

My guess would be that whoever wrote that was thinking of Americans. That should probably be removed or rewritten. --Burgercat 11:20, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Terry Gilliam?
Didn't Terry Gilliam influence this, with cutting off the chin to make people talk and whatnot? Curvebill 00:23, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Colin Mochrie
The most commonly used character in animutation is Colin Mochrie Where does that come from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.63.190 (talk) 07:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It should probably say:


 * A commonly used character in animutation is Colin Mochrie


 * Or better yet, just include Mr. Mochrie's name in the list of other characters. --Lance E Sloan (talk) 14:20, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

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Merger proposal
This article is about a subject which gets about only 14,000 Google hits, and very little coverage. It's sort of a cross between WP:NEO and WP:OR. I suggest we merge this into Neil Cicierega, which seems to be the primary person responsible for these and redirect, instead of putting it up for afd again. --Sloane (talk) 18:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * On Newgrounds alone (which only has a small selection), they've been viewed millions of times... I tend to lean toward the view that this is a genuine folk art phenomenon - though Cicierega started it, the very nature of animutations was based around appropriation and mixing of things in the collective consciousness, which was why they found such popularity and so quickly began to be "imitated". For a time, this was the dominant style of Flash animation. It was a lot bigger than one person, which is why I think leaving it with its own article would be best. Esn (talk) 18:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I'm not sure how you were Googling, but as of this writing a Google search for "animutation" gets about 181,000 hits while a search for "animutation" which excludes the word "cicierega" gets around 151,000.   The phenomenon may have been started by him, but it has moved way beyond a footnote in his article. Rob T Firefly (talk) 08:39, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks like this is a really old proposal. Can we just take it off the page?  But in any case, I oppose because this is a phenomenon distinct from the man cited as creating it.  Many of the popular videos in the genre (and all of the recent ones, to my knowledge) have nothing to do with Cicierega at all.  If anything, soramimi would be a better candidate for a merger than Neil Cicierega, since the two both center on phonetically misheard lyrics often transliterated across languages.  -- Joren (talk) 05:46, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Seeing as this has been on here for more than two years without a single support or further reasoning, I'd say it is appropriate to remove the tag, which I will have done by the time someone reads this.  EW  i kist Talk 16:01, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Subjectivity
The History section reflects a little bit of opinion, which is subjective. Wikipedia pages are supposed to be unbiased and objective. It says, "Animutation was "invented" by Neil Cicierega. Cicierega claims..." Anyone can see that this may reflect a bit of a negative opinion. And even if that was not the writer's intent, it still makes the facts unclear. I suggest someone rewrite this part, and perhaps attempt a fact check. Lilyka (talk) 13:07, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

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