Talk:Anthony Pollina

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Dear Mr. Colby;

It is apparent that you feel the need to allow the man that Anthony Pollina designated for the wikipedia job (namely me) to play the editorial game. I would prefer to discuss it.....

Maurice Doubleday

Mr. Doubleday, Wikipedia is open to everyone and therefore anyone can (and did) add information about Mr. Pollina. In fact, the point of a biographical entry is to have information about the man and not just propaganda from his campaign. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikkifan (talk • contribs) 02:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Policies and Guidelines:

Wikipedia articles are to have a Neutral Point of View (NPOV). Someone who, “Anthony Pollina designated for the wikipedia job” has totally rewritten this article with absolute disregard for the NPOV. The result is an article that clearly violates Wikipedia’s “Policies and Guidelines”.

Some clear problems with the Pollina campaign’s rewrite of this article:

1. This page should be devoted to Pollina’s entire public life, and should not focus on only one subject (i.e. his latest bid for Governor). Pollina has a campaign website. This is not it. The Pollina campaign has made half of this article about his 2008 bid for governor – while deleting important facts about his history.

2. The Pollina campaign is suppressing important information regarding Pollina’s public life. It has deleted the fact that Pollina has run for statewide office in Vermont 4 times. There is no reason to hide this objective and verifiable fact.

3) The Pollina Campaign has censored relevant, objective and verifiable information regarding Pollina’s history with the Vermont Milk Company. All of this information was in the article and it was supported with appropriate source material (as per Wikipedia’s guidelines). It is not appropriate for a political campaign to suppress this information.

4) The Pollina campaign rewrite suppresses information about Pollina’s lawsuit against the Campaign Finance Law. This is a significant aspect of Pollina’s history as a public figure in the state of Vermont. It isn’t appropriate for a political campaign to suppress this information.

5) The Pollina campaign’s article uses very subjective language in describing Pollina. The language has the effect of glorifying Pollina and violating the NPOV guidelines. Some examples:

• “Anthony Pollina has a variety of professional experience that combines to make him an effective and unique leader.” This is NOT neutral language, by any means and it isn’t fit for Wikipedia.

• “Housing costs and good jobs to promote the security and the future of Vermont's children is (sic) paramount to the campaign.” Every campaign says this about their candidate. It’s a subjective statement, not based in objective fact.

6) The Pollina Campaign’s rewrite of the article deletes all supporting documentation for facts provided in previous versions of the article (and provides no supporting documentation for their statements, outside of the campaign website). The campaign’s rewrite only directs us to the Pollina campaign website, the Progressive Party website (which is interesting, since Pollina just left the Progressive Party) and Democracy for America. It’s inappropriate to delete facts that have supporting and credible sources.

People should have access to all public information about Pollina, not just that which portrays him in a positive light.

I don’t know who “Colby” is. I’m just interested in maintaining Wikipedia’s standards of neutrality.

Please read the Wikipedia guidelines and policies before posting again. Here are some good places to start: Neutral point of view, Policies and guidelines

Nkwiki (talk) 02:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

needs refs, needs to establish notability
Hello, I'm not sure that his article presently satisfies the notability standard spelt out at WP:POLITICIAN. Multiple sources of independent and non-trivial coverage are required, please. --AndrewHowse (talk) 20:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Refs shouldn't be a problem - this candidate bio page on local Tv station WCAX should suffice to verify the past electoral results part, and I'm sure the State of Vermont has records too. That should fix WP:V.

WP:N might be more of an issue - he's certrainly, as you'd expect, had wide coverage by the local state media, and he basically tied the Dem candidate, so he wasn't an also-ran third party candidate. The question is whether widespread coverage in a small state like Vermont is enough. It'd be nice to find something in a more nationally circulated media. MadScot (talk) 00:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, here's a NY Times article which is basically about the financing of his campaign in 2000. I think there's going to be enough notability that AfD is the right place. I'm contesting the prod, therefore. MadScot (talk) 00:43, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

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