Talk:Arab Maghreb Union/Archives/2016

Western Sahara Map : |
In Africa Union there is a good map with the correct
 * Yeah, I noticed that. About a year ago somebody replaced the AMU map (Arab_Maghreb_Union_(orthographic_projection).svg) with the Maghreb map (Maghreb_(orthographic_projection).svg).  I assume it was a accident, as said user fixed a whole bunch of stuff in the infobox at the time.  Any rate, I've fixed it, as well as making the striping a bit clearer. --Quintucket (talk) 15:30, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Seems out of date
Looks like an update is needed.FeatherPluma (talk) 21:24, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * There's not that much to update - this is very much a dead parrot and only some authoritative citations will convince me otherwise...
 * User:Abjiklam writes that's editorializing. the website shows they've released communiqués in French and Arabic as late as March 2016 but I can find no such recent press releases. The most recent ones just trot out the newsletter of the United Nations regional field office of the FAO. Where is the actual evidence that they are not moribund and unable to agree on anything whatever - even a flag? BushelCandle (talk) 00:42, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * There's no question this organisation is of little relevance nowadays, but they remain active nonetheless: http://www.maghrebarabe.org/fr/communiques.cfm?id=163. Can you produce a reference that states they are moribund? Abjiklɐm (tɐlk) 00:55, 15 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, I can.
 * Here are 2 to be getting on with:
 * 1) Who's Who in the Arab World 2007-2008, edited by Publitec Publications, Page 1117 states "It was reported in early January 2006, that the largely moribund Arab Maghreb Union (AMU) had appointed..."
 * 2) The National newspaper published in Abhu Dhabi printed an article by John Thorne dated 17 February 2012 entitled The liberated Maghreb looks to economic union: "Tunisia's interim president, Moncef Marzouki, toured Morocco, Mauritania and Algeria last week in a bid to breathe life into the moribund Arab Maghreb Union (AMU), a planned North African trading bloc. While economic integration could boost employment and living standards across the region, leaders largely unanswerable to voters dithered for years in making it happen." BushelCandle (talk) 09:37, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the refs. But please do not call those asking for sources naysayers, it's a normal part of the editing process. Abjiklɐm (tɐlk) 09:51, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry.
 * However, the lead section should summarise the rest of the article - and the rest of the article has made plain for years that, sadly, nothing concrete has been achieved and nothing in the public realm indicates that this so called union is anything other than a dead parrot. To give our readers a different summary would be to seriously mislead them. What other 'union' are you aware of where the mutual land border between the 2 largest members of the so called 'union' have been closed for decades with landmines outnumbering weeds? BushelCandle (talk) 10:03, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * You're right, it's a saddening situation really. In any case, I support your efforts to paint a realistic picture of the topic. Abjiklɐm (tɐlk) 10:18, 15 March 2016 (UTC)


 * That web page that you cited was an announcement about a workshop organised by a local bank looking to promote regional investment and the AMU just rode on its coattails. Sure, the bureaucracy is drawing its salary and fiddling their expense accounts but international co-operation is zero, zilch, nix and that's what the rest of our article says - either directly or by not being able to specify anything that this moribund 'organisation' has achieved for many years.
 * The very last entry relating to the AMU itself (as opposed to updates provided by other entities) is more than four years old: "Courtesy Visit of the Director General of the Islamic Centre for Development of Trade (ICDT) to the Secretary General of the Arab Maghreb Union (AMU) 18 January 2012: H.E. Mr. Habib Ben Yahia, Secretary General of the Arab Maghreb Union, received at the headquarters of the Arab Maghreb Union (AMU) in Rabat on January 18th, 2012 a delegation of the Islamic Centre for Development of Trade led by Dr. El Hassane HZAINE, the Director General." BushelCandle (talk) 01:04, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 1 April 2007
 * 9 December 2013
 * 4 February 2010 BushelCandle (talk) 01:09, 15 March 2016 (UTC)