Talk:Aradia di Toscano

Distribution of Gospel of Diana
Kelly sent the text out as a plaintext file on the old PODS net. Magliocco may well have gotten her copy on a compact disc; Kelly had been selling CDs of his collective writings from his website (which I can't seem to find now) for a while. It's a minor point, but I'd prefer removing "CD" -- Kelly's collections certainly weren't available on CD in '92. We may as well leave out "online" as well, since it is likely to confuse the reader. How about just "document"? Jkelly 17:13, 17 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Fine. I must apologise for saying that I'd changed the text from "privately printed online" – words you never wrote. I was switching between this text and Magliocco article which calls it a "privately published electronic document", and ended up traducing both your words and Magliocco's. Magliocco certainly implies she had access to a CD (she says "disk"), which would make sense of the phrase "privately published". "Distributed online" is better, but "and on CD" could be added – if anyone thinks it important. Paul B 17:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

To clarify all this, I discovered I could sell my writings on 5.25-inch disks in 1993. These disks were sold by mail order to pagans who responded to my direct-mail advertising, sent to those in my database compiled from Pagan periodicals. They were also sold in three Pagan stores, in Peoria, Toronto, and New York (I think). I did not get on to the Internet until 1998. I have never distributed any of my writing over the Internet, and anything of mine to be found on the Internet was uploaded without my permission; so if you have anything of mine (e.g., "The Public Contents of the Book of Shadows"), you are an accessory to piracy. To assuage your conscience, you might send me a donation. Submitted by Aidan A. Kelly, July 8, 2006.


 * Thanks for the clarification. I note that you also added quite a bit of material to the article about your motivations for writing the material and what it was meant to be read as.  Is there anywhere else this information is available?  Per our Verifiability and No original research policies, we cannot be the first place to publish information.  Would you be willing to post your addition to the article at your website, so that we can then reference it?  Thanks again, Jkelly 17:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Material needing verification
Few people have understood that "The Gospel of Diana" is actually a chapter in a (hopefully soon to be finally published) novel set in a parallel universe. I wrote it in 1991, and did not see Grimassi's writings until 1992. He and I corresponded about our writing, and agreed that there were some remarkable similarities, as well as some obvious differences, between them. My Aradia is a fictitious character; his he claims to be historical. Perhaps, since art and life imitate each other, both views are true. His Aradia would seem to correspond most closely to "Aradia 6, 1330-1400. Aradia the First Regent, 1350-1364.  With the deaths of her mother, grandmother, and great-grandmother almost simultaneously from the Black Death in 1350, when her daughter was only a year old, responsibility for the tradition fell on the shoulders of the sixth Aradia.  Rather than shirk this responsibility, yet not wanting to break the tradition about the names, this Aradia declared herself Regent rather then Queen, and so reigned in fact until her daughter reached the canonical of 15 and could accept coronation." (This is an excerpt from "The Aradianic Lineage, compiled by Diana the Sixth Regent" in the novel.) Submitted by Aidan A. Kelly, July 8, 2006.

Aradia di Toscano
"Aradia di Toscano" is actually closer to "Aradia of Tuscan".

Toscana => Toscano as Tuscany => Tuscan —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.193.5.35 (talk • contribs).

Di Toscano is not related to Tuscany at all. Her name does NOT mean "of Tuscany". It's just a last name, that's all. --125.24.195.175 (talk) 02:30, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Magliocco article
I altered the url for the Pomegranate article - it's moved on the university site. Don't know whether I've got the preferred version, but certainly the one I replaced was broken. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ffetcher (talk • contribs) 09:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Merge into Aradia (goddess)
This page must surely be merged with Aradia (goddess), the article which deals with the actual figure of Aradia as found in Charles Leland’s gospel, the effect which she has had on the Neopagan movement, and her possible origins, whether they be folkloric (as the academic Sabina Magliocco suggests), or whether they be based upon Aradia di Toscano (as Raven Grimassi suggests). After all, the figure of Aradia di Toscano is simply a theory - one with very little supporting evidence I must add - for the origins of Leland's Aradia, and therefore does not warrant its own Wikipedia page anymore than Maggliocco's theories on a folkloric Aradia warrant one. I therefore propose that this page be merged with that at Aradia (goddess). (Midnightblueowl (talk) 16:13, 23 July 2010 (UTC))


 * Grimassi's Aradia di Toscano theory is certainly a component of the subject, Aradia (goddess). So it would be appropriate to include it within a single article, where readers can easily find all of this material. A section or subsection should be added to Aradia (goddess) with a header making it readily identifiable to readers who arrive there via a redirect for Aradia di Toscano. Folklore1 (talk) 19:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)