Talk:Arnold Schwarzenegger/Archive 5

Infobox about political career Suggestion
There are currently two separate infoboxes, one at the lead and another at the section Arnold Schwarzenegger. Since the first infobox contains only personal information, why not merge both infoboxes? Seems like they overlap, too, as the second infobox contains personal information such as his birth. Also, should the political career infobox be moved/copied to Political career of Arnold Schwarzenegger? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Llightex (talk) 14:50, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Jaw surgery
Whatever happened to the part about him having a jaw reduction procedure sometime in the '80s? I read it on this article many years ago. Removed for being unsourced? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:46, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Apropos Personal life
Maybe Schwarzenegger's relationship with the physical therapist Heather Milligan (*1974) should be mentioned in the section "Personal life" -- after all -- other Hollywood biographies include such information. cf. here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2765520/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-holds-hands-fraulein-Heather-Milligan-attend-Oktoberfest-Germany.html 87.145.101.11 (talk) 10:32, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * At this point, there is not much beyond gossip. Not encyclopedic yet. Chunk5Darth (talk) 15:36, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

No legitimate source for claim that Arnold Schwarzenegger's Austrian accent was not considered tough.
This claim: "Ironically he was not allowed to dub his own voice for German versions of The Terminator because his Austrian accent was not considered tough." has this source: http://blog.esl-languages.com/en/esl/celebrities-speak-languages/ However, this source no longer exists at this location, and I'm not sure that it's clear that a blog is a legitimate source for this information without a citation to another source that should have been cited in the first place. Indeed, the article actually does still exist here, but it does not cite where it gets its facts from. They could be mistaken. Bamatrama (talk) 13:16, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Just to note, I would like to remove this claim as well as the citation. However, I think that this action requires discussion or justification on the talk page first. Bamatrama (talk) 15:35, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I was bold. Google search yielded nothing. Chunk5Darth (talk) 16:58, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Nationality
What's notable about Ahnie is that a good chunk of his early career was as an Austrian immigrant. His parents' nationality is not important to anything. "Austrian-born American" is a very precise and well-constructed description, and has been the status quo; "Austrian and American", however, is not only clumsy, but also implies that he has a career in Austria, which he doesn't., please make a case for changing the status quo, per WP:BRD as well as the spirit of collabotarive editing. Chunk5Darth (talk) 19:15, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Austrian-born has an ambiguous meaning. It is not precise and well-constructed, because it is usually read by the average reader referring to an accident of birth rather than as referring to a dual national. That is, the most common reading of "Austrian-born American" is actually the birth of an American citizen to American parents who just happen to be living or stationed in Austria. This wording has been replaced by 'and' on other articles for precisely this reason (that it depreciates the subject's actual birth nationality): for example Charlize Theron, after discussion on the article talk page. The same arguments apply here. This is a simple improvement in grammar which removes ambiguity and should not be subject to a edit war but someone who mistakenly believe that they own the article. Skyerise (talk) 19:23, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * See this RfC on the issue. Skyerise (talk) 19:26, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You should really chill out on the personal attacks and ignoring the discussion, namely being pointed to WP:BRD twice and reiterating the "ownage" accusation in spite of it. Also, other articles may provide a good example, but are not a reason to break guidelines. As I already explained, his parents' nationality is not notable, while his being an Austrian immigrant is. I also happen to disagree with the consensus on Theron, but we are at a different article right now. If it truly bothers you, I suggest you raise the issue to change the general rule on famous people, whose career is in the US but their birthplace is elsewhere. Chunk5Darth (talk) 19:34, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: your first edit was in complete contradiction with the Charlize Theron case. Looks like you're making it up as you go along. Chunk5Darth (talk) 19:39, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, I was involved in creating the current wording of WP:OPENPARA and therefore know its intent. We are supposed to be using (in general) the single most-recent nationality held at the time that the subject became notable. By strict reading of the rules, this article should just say "American". My second edit was a compromise that removed ambiguity while leaving both nationalities. How did you attempt to compromise? Skyerise (talk) 19:59, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It is not about compromising, it's about doing the right thing. You might be missing the purpose of this encyclopedia altogether. Chunk5Darth (talk) 20:03, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Using an ambiguous grammatical construction in an encyclopedia article is never the "right thing". Especially in the lead sentence! I've been here ten years, I know what I am doing. Skyerise (talk) 20:11, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * If you truly know what you are doing, you should know that your behavior is tendentious and disruptive, and the very belief that having been here for 10 years gives you the automatic right to go against the established process for gaining consensus is the very essence of WP:OWN. There is nothing ambiguous about "Austrian-born American", as it is exactly how people know him. His parents, on the other hand, are irrelevant to his notability. Chunk5Darth (talk) 20:32, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

But he's not an "Austrian-born American", he's a dual national: both an Austrian citizen and anAmerican citizen. That's a standard grammatical conjunction: and. The two different wordings have different connotations and one of those connotations is just plain wrong. So we use the clearly grammatical, unambiguous wording. How could you have a problem with that? You have given no arguments about why the use of and is inferior to the use of -born. I've clearly described the problem with the latter. Not even going to try to rebut me or give actual arguments supporting your position? Perhaps you don't have any except "Wah wah previous 'stable' version wah wah". Skyerise (talk) 20:39, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Already explained more than once: his current Austrian citizenship is irrelevant to his notability, but his being a former Austrian immigrant is. His parents are also irrelevant. None of the details that you have been emphasizing are relevant. Therefore, the wording of WP:OPENPARA fits the current version, because only the fact that he is an American personality who was born in Austria is relevant to his notability. But by all means, continue the cheap shots. Chunk5Darth (talk) 21:00, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment Austrian born American is perfectly acceptable and is supported by reliable sources. JOJ Hutton  22:20, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Austrian-born American... is the best solution. Subtropical -man   talk   (en-2)   00:49, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 December 2014
I would like to add a section on education to the Arnold Schwarzenegger page and put there much of the information that I have created at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Record_Production/Workshop/Most_Famous_Alum,_University_of_Wisconsin_Superior&oldid=638704467 May I please? Thanks Prlitecky (talk) 23:18, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

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Razzies
Ain't it kinda notable that Ahnie's received the 2005 Razzie Award for Worst Razzie Loser of Our First 25 Years for being the one actor possibly most-nominated for a razzie without ever actually getting one? It's not necessarily disparaging, I mean, for many his "wooden" acting is part of his appeal as a cheesy action hero (very much like Adam West, actually) who's not been above parodying his own "wooden" persona with films such as Last Action Hero and how within the Terminator franchise, people keep trying to make the Terminator "blend in", often to rather hilarious results because T-800 just doesn't get it right. --80.187.110.67 (talk) 01:11, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2015
It should say that he is an Austrian and American. I am confused as to why it says that he is an Austrian-born American rather than Austrian and American since he was born and raised in Austria and did not movie to the United States until he was 21. He also holds citizenship for both countries, so I do not see why that makes him simply "Austrian-born". That seems inaccurate. "Austrian-born American" would imply that he was only born in Austria but raised in the United States as an American throughout his entire life, including his childhood, which is definitely not his case. He is an immigrant who came to the United States as a 21 year old, knowing very little English, which is stated in this article.

Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger (born July 30, 1947) is an Austrian and American actor, model, producer, director, activist, businessman, investor, writer, philanthropist, former professional bodybuilder, and politician. Schwarzenegger served two terms as the 38th Governor of California from 2003 until 2011.

Doubletoasted01 (talk) 00:12, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * There seems to be consensus at that the current form is fine. Stickee (talk) 00:48, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

I agree that "Austrian-born American" is incorrect, as it suggests that he was born in Austria as an American citizen (e.g. to American parents living in Austria at the time). He is an Austrian-born Austrian who later became naturalised as an American citizen, and therefore holds the citizenship of both countries. "Austrian-American" would be a more accurate description. Unless, of course, he has surrendered his Austrian citizenship, in which case a source for that needs to be provided. As for the consensus, consensus is not always correct. 82.171.253.241 (talk) 11:47, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2015
Arnolds bench press record is 520 lbs. Pointed out here: In a interview posted in 2012: http://www.seanhyson.com/blog/interview-with-arnold And on letterman 1994: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-Z0pxSfk2s&feature=youtu.be&t=574

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Marriage and Family
Shouldn't his illegitimate child with the housekeeper be under the family section? After all it is his progeny. Also, given that we know all the names of his children, they should be listed in the text box at the top of the article rather than the dismissive "and 3 others". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.244.74.98 (talk) 01:28, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Early Life
"At school, Schwarzenegger was apparently in the middle"

What does this mean? that he was an average student? In the middle of what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.46.3 (talk) 01:03, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Maggie
I feel a reference to the recent Maggie (film) is missing Philippe.mermod (talk) 10:48, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Why not add one then? SergeantSwing (talk) 12:06, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2015
The reference on his Roman Catholic religion should be wikified to read ".

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Should he be added to the YouTubers category?
I know he has a YouTube channel I'm subscribed to him. Blaze The Movie Fan (talk) 22:37, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2016
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Gay magazine
Schwarzenegger posed nude for the gay magazine After Dark in 1977. Is it OK to add that fact to the article? Elendaíl (talk) 02:57, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2016
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AfD Request Death of Louis Santos
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However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  Kamel Tebaast  15:52, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 October 2016
Remove lines "As one of his last acts, and only minutes before leaving office..." added by Kamel Tebaast on October 11. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arnold_Schwarzenegger&oldid=743880884 This event is not notable enough to include in the opening paragraphs of this page. It may be significant enough to include elsewhere in the article but is mainly a footnote.

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 * Yes check.svg Done I agree with you. Especially as an article that edit added to the lead, Death of Louis Santos, is nominated for deletion. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:08, 12 October 2016 (UTC)


 * NOTE: AfD consensus was to keep article.  Kamel  Tebaast  20:58, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2016
Not clear how to go about doing this, so I'm doing it this way. . . . .. ..  . the so-called source # 38 that is supposed to back up the claim that Arnold sued a doctor in Germany for libel for simply predicting Arnold's death does not have any information that backs up and supports that claim. WTF

37.254.235.105 (talk) 10:20, 30 October 2016 (UTC) net worth      US$900 million
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https://www.youtube.com/user/GovSchwarzenegger VikingWarlord (talk) 00:01, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  JTP ( talk • contribs) 15:24, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Such good shape because of horseback riding ??? Lol
DUHHHHH !!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.110.185.79 (talk) 16:01, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 February 2017
Modification on his height. The link for it is outdated and is not working currently.

http://www.celebheights.com/s/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-177.html So he was likely 187 in his prime. His height is not properly correct. His height is approved by his family member, and by hundreds of different people. SzEnYa (talk) 00:11, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: That is not a reliable source. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:07, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2017
Awards & Honors 2005 - Arnold Schwarzenegger inducted into the National Fitness Hall of Fame source: http://www.nationalfitnesshalloffame.com/schwarzenegger.html Johnfigwiki (talk) 19:52, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2017
The first paragraph of the 'Public Life' section seems to belong to the previous section (i.e. 'Vehicles'). Svershin (talk) 08:33, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ Moved. 97198 (talk) 10:47, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 September 2017
please change on to in 2605:E000:9161:A500:557C:1F2F:544D:EFE7 (talk) 02:05, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * - It is not clear which word you are referring to. Please be more specific. Taketa (talk) 08:22, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 November 2017
In the "Death of Louis Santos" subsection, the "involuntary manslaughter" charge should be "voluntary manslaughter". Here is a link to an article which corroborates this fact: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-commutation-nunez-sentence-draws-fire-local-prosec-2011jan03-htmlstory.html

The first line of the article reads: "Two local prosecutors on Monday condemned Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s decision on his last day in office to reduce the prison sentence for Esteban Núñez, who pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter in a 2008 stabbing." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:F54A:300:4E6:BB95:A6FC:A8B0 (talk) 06:59, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 November 2017
"on January 2017" to "in January 2017" 2605:E000:9143:7000:CD9:DEA9:989:1906 (talk) 07:56, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅. Good catch. Thank you. City O f Silver  08:03, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2018
Correct subject/verb agreement in the following sentence:

Please change: All of their children was born in Los Angeles. to All of their children were born in Los Angeles. 24.213.201.201 (talk) 03:32, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Gulumeemee (talk) 03:48, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2018
there is at "at January" that should be "on January" 2605:E000:9143:7000:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6 (talk) 08:50, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2018
So it looks like a previous edit ( 07:10, 21 January 2018‎ Rizky88 ) added ""Governator" redirects here. For the Green Day song, see American Idiot (song)." I found this super confusing and thought at first it was an insult/vandalism being concealed as if it were a proper edit. The Green Day song Governator is a B side released on the digital deluxe version of the Greenday *album* american idiot, the two songs are separate works.

I suggest "For the Green Day song of the same name, see American Idiot"

Or maybe just remove the reference completely, since it's a b-side that was released only on the digital deluxe release and there actually doesn't seem to be any info about it in the album article besides what I typed above. 216.168.113.98 (talk) 17:10, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Not Emergency open heart surgery
'"So the former California governor chose to have a less-invasive catheter valve replacement procedure." from the ref link. 37.188.234.184 (talk) 16:16, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2018
Arnold is Austrian, not American since both his parents are Austrian and he wasn't born in America either so I'd like to change that. Sylajone (talk) 10:58, 28 April 2018 (UTC)


 * You do understand what dual citizenship means? Arnold's lived most of his adult life in the United States and even held a political office, for which he has to be a citizen, a naturalized citizen to be precise. --CaptainNtheGameMaster (talk) 16:11, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: He has dual citizinship & is therefore Austrian-American. Nici  Vampire  Heart  17:49, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Edit request
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Semi-protected edit request on 12 December 2018
Nick name: 'The Austrian Oak' Wikomaniac (talk) 10:21, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * This information is already in the article and the infobox. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:43, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2019
There is no citation for the purported middle names of Christopher Sargent Shriver Schwarzenegger. The extant citation is false: https://www.nytimes.com/1997/09/30/nyregion/chronicle-367451.html (CHRONICLE By NADINE BROZAN, [Tuesday] SEPT. 30, 1997) gives no name whatsoever, not even a first name. Here is the item in its entirely:

"It's another son for MARIA SHRIVER and ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER. Ms. Shriver gave birth on Saturday afternoon (Sept. 27, 1997) to a nine-and-a-half-pound boy in Los Angeles, Mr. Schwarzenegger's publicity agent, Catherine Olim, said yesterday. A name has yet to be announced."

"Ms. Shriver, a contributing co-anchor for Dateline NBC, went home yesterday. The couple have three other children: Katherine, 8; Christina, 6, and Patrick, 4."

Per WP:BLP, personal-life claims about living people must be WP:RS-cited. --2604:2000:1382:C5DD:BC67:2D3B:4FD5:906 (talk) 15:48, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ✔️: citation added.   SITH   (talk)   16:47, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Lead sentence
Currently, the lead sentence read: "Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger (/ˈʃvɑːrtsnɛɡər/;[1][a] German: [ˈaɐ̯nɔlt ˈʃvaɐ̯tsn̩ˌʔɛɡɐ]; born July 30, 1947) is an Austrian-American actor, filmmaker, businessman, author, philanthropist, activist, politician, and former professional bodybuilder and powerlifter."

Anyone want to try editing this mess into something more readable? WP:BLPLEAD has guidelines about what lead sentences should look like.

LK (talk) 02:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I removed Austrian per WP:MOSETHNICITY, and trimmed the long list to "is an American politician, actor, filmmaker, and former professional bodybuilder". Icewhiz (talk) 06:25, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

"Schwarzenegger was nicknamed "Schwarzy" during his acting career" What, Where? When was he ever called that?86.41.149.167 (talk) 01:34, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Divorce status
The article states that Schwarzenegger's divorce from Shriver has been finalized. It cites an article from Architectural Digest, which doesn't seem like a rock-solid source for this type of information. A quick scan of a Google search (https://www.google.com/search?q=arnold+maria+shriver+divorce+finalized&safe=active&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ACYBGNQSbW34G5dUR-65eGaYkvt7j8MxBQ:1572932396501&ei=LAvBXYiTHs3n5gK7mrLoCA&start=10&sa=N&ved=0ahUKEwiI2f7lrdLlAhXNs1kKHTuNDI0Q8tMDCNcB&biw=1024&bih=482) leaves me fairly convinced that the divorce has NOT been finalized. Does anybody have definitive information on this? SunCrow (talk) 05:56, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Not sure about your request but Maria Shriver’s divorce year is listed as 2011. Why is Arnold’s 2017? Ca Love1315 (talk) 04:06, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 December 2019
89.254.196.165 (talk) 21:44, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Divorce year change to 2011 to match Maria Shriver Ca Love1315 (talk) 04:07, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Arnolds height
I met Arnold the summer of 1983 at a restaurant called The Rose in Venice CA. I saw him and his protégé at the time "christian yanicht" {sic} having lunch. He was in line at the counter placing his order - I'm 6'-6" and towered over him, estimating his height at 5'-10." It's cafeteria style seating so I sat next to him and we chatted. After a few minutes he excused himself to the bathroom, I continued chatting with Christian who was very quite and only nodded... When Arnold came back he said: in his Teutonic "he doesn't speak any English..." :-) We chatted some more and parted ways...  :-)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:14A:600:F830:20FB:EEA:C354:85CC (talk) 04:29, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

correction
He wasn't divorced 2017 as written at the right side, but 2011! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.195.143.224 (talk) 12:13, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 May 2020
In Early life please change

Gustav had a preference for his elder son, Meinhard, over Schwarzenegger.

to

Gustav had a preference for his elder son, Meinhard, over Arnold.

reason:

Referring to goth brothers with their first names. GeorgeBridge (talk) 11:19, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Interstellarity (talk) 15:33, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * This is more of a grammar edit/copy edit to make the sentence less confusing, which I dont think needs reliable source citation. MaximusEditor (talk) 19:05, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2020
The first sentence ("Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger is an Austrian-American actor, businessman, and former politician and professional bodybuilder.") has an 'and' before "former politician" that should be removed. So, change the first sentence to: "Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger is an Austrian-American actor, businessman, former politician and professional bodybuilder." Polambert (talk) 20:48, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Thank you. - FlightTime  ( open channel ) 21:00, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

ASKING A QUESTION FROM MATT GILLISPIE ORANGE CA, l
Arnold S, My name is Matt Gillispie Orange CA. Just a note to you to get your DVICE? I WAS IN cOMA IN AND FROM MTHIS I HAVE many PROBLEMS. memory for one. and left side peralisis. ;ater after some recovery I got int o stand up comedy "witch was fun" it sis it about my crash and it was at the second stand in Anh ca. Before this all "sory I put second. I was in a short film for a college director which was fun called the Confession box. later after was dumb stuff I did and then I ment a girl on line and we got married later. she new I was not suppose to be able to have kids but she married me.:) later we had a Boy, and he is a A kid with some of the highest grades. I was not for sure,and my was a average student! so ??? Anyhow I always was a bid workout guy and did a lot of time in the gym. Now it helps me get threw lots of things too! my gym "24 hour fitness is closed so I bought some dumbbells and mad a few machine. now I am in my 40's and can't get the changes in size anymore? Does this happen to you too? Mind you my diet is not as filled up as it could be, as food is so much$$ I cant seem to get results with high reps? I love it all that you've done in life. Always Matt Gillispie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:D2E1:5360:B56E:F5B7:D58F:9AE1 (talk) 15:14, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 September 2020
"In May 2010, Esteban Núñez pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter" should be changed to "In May 2010, Esteban Núñez pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter". Finnpop (talk) 09:12, 1 September 2020 (UTC)Finnpop

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2020
hes from Germany not Austria Sanjay690 (talk) 21:13, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Sanjay690 (talk) 21:13, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Germany Sanjay690 (talk) 21:14, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * What makes you think that? – Thjarkur (talk) 21:44, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Should the fact he was Governor go before the fact he is a actor?
What is Wikipedia policy reagarding how intisal sentences should be organized Should the polical office of Governor go before actor or because he more promintant and famous as a actor the fact he is a actor goes first? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NDNSWMI (talk • contribs) 03:31, October 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * He was an actor before being a Governor, and he's better known for being an actor, that's why it's listed first. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 18:04, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

2019 attack
His 2019 drop kick attack is listed in both the "Accidents, injuries and other health issues" and "Post 2016" sections, does it really need to be put twice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.216.61 (talk) 15:43, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Achievements as Governor
It is strange that this article fails to make any mention of Schwarzenegger's two most lasting achievements during his terms as governor: redistricting reform and the top-two primary system. --Westwind273 (talk) 14:34, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Louis Santos: contradiction
As per the LA Times source and Death of Louis Santos, Esteban Núñez pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter. This article says involuntary. Please correct.--188.104.254.1 (talk) 13:55, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Typo in surname of paternal grandfather
Both references [12] and [13] clearly state that the surname was Mach, not March. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:4B00:8A10:7A00:1E6F:65FF:FE91:97CA (talk) 15:14, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Childhood, Father, Growing up in Postwar Austria
In a recent twitter post (1/10/21), Schwarzenegger stated: "Now, I've never shared this so publicly because it is a painful memory. But my father would come home drunk once or twice a week, and he would scream and hit us and scare my mother. I didn't hold him totally responsible because our neighbor was doing the same thing to his family and so was the next neighbor over. I heard it with my own ears and saw it with my own eyes. They were in physical pain from the shrapnel in their bodies and in emotional pain from what they saw or did. It all started with lies, and lies, and lies, and intolerance." The story is repeated in several news outlets. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.209.158 (talk) 04:12, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Creditability of Schwarzenegger's statements
From 2012: "Arnold Schwarzenegger admits he once expressed admiration for Adolf Hitler after publicly denying it for years" https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/arnold-admits-expressed-admiration-hitler-article-1.1177364 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.17.250.122 (talk) 07:53, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Obviously wrong information and poor use of citations
So he's not divorced. I'm confused why there is even a sentence confirming he was divorced in 2017 when the linked article say's the divorce is not finalized and still in the early stages of settlement. https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/arnold-schwarzenegger-opens-up-about-cheating-on-maria-shriver/

I can find multiple articles from 2021 confirming it is still in the works and it's bizarre that we are using entertainment articles when divorce certificates are public record and easily obtainable. This is the link for their court case — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdybens (talk • contribs) 00:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Weight contradiction
In the statistics section it says "the heaviest in 1974 Mr. Olympia: around 250 lb (110 kg)". I'm not sure if any of these are true. But I know for sure 250 lbs is a little over 113 Kg, definitely not 110 Kg Bahp (talk) 05:22, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 June 2021
Arnold Schwarzenegger was an investor in Google LLC's Series A round, and my intent is to add that to the ending of his "Investments" section

Source: https://www.crunchbase.com/funding_round/google-series-a--6c4715f9 2601:150:4300:8EC0:FD99:C028:6C01:D20C (talk) 02:02, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ❌> Crunchbase is not considered a reliable source; see WP:CRUNCHBASE. ◢  Ganbaruby!   (talk) 02:18, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Wrong seal of Governor of California?
The seal shown is that of the 39th governor. Schwarzenegger was the 38th. A lot of Arnold related Wikipedia pages use this seal. --RabbitFromMars (talk) 19:52, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2021
Can anyone fix and rearrange his occupations back to its original edit again? Because the current edit that it looks now here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arnold_Schwarzenegger&diff=1048669904&oldid=1048417682 looks really awkward. Can this edit be undone and be put back the way its suppose to be? 73.61.19.167 (talk) 17:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Looks like someone already took care of this. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:34, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2021 (2)
There’s a comma that is missing in the first sentence after "former bodybuilder". It currently says "former bodybuilder producer" were it should say "former bodybuilder, producer" This is the last error that needs to fixed and that’s it. Can anyone please add that comma in? 73.61.19.158 (talk) 20:23, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Are we sure he didn't just produce bodybuilders? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:29, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Please Edit Phonetics for German
The pronunciation given in IPA for German is slightly off. It is not how it is pronounced in German. It should be [ˈʔaɐ̯nɔlt ˈʔaːloɪs ˈʃvaɐ̯tsn̩ˌʔɛɡɐ] instead.

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2022
Change from "div. 2021" to "div. 2011" in Personal Data/Spouse(s) section on right side of page. Heavytomove (talk) 18:17, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Schwarzenegger and Shriver finalized their divorce in 2021, ten years after separating.[206][207] – Muboshgu (talk) 18:42, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Change "pulmonic" to "pulmonary," the more common word
In "Health problems," change "pulmonic" to "pulmonary." "Pulmonary valve" is the more common word, especially in lay English. 99.13.228.225 (talk) 18:42, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Missing movie in filmography
Junior 1994 is missing. I'm too noob to edit 67.180.95.250 (talk) 07:27, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Could anyone insert,
please, a link to a video (1:58 PM · Mar 17, 2022; 9:16; subtitles both in English and Russian) published today by BBC News in article “Arnold Schwarzenegger's anti-Ukraine war video trends on Russian social media” into a correct place/context in the article, thank U. ☆☆☆— Pietadè<sup style="font-variant:small-caps;">Talk 14:19, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Ethnic background
There doesn't seem to be any credible proof that Schwarzenegger was part Czech. This seems to only come from tabloids like Prague Reporter and Nový čas. Schwarzenegger's family seems to be German-speaking, and Schwarzenegger has never mentioned his mother being Czech. Unlike his father, there doesn't really seem to be anything known about his mother's family history. While Jadrny does sound Czech, this isn't anything special. Most Austrians have some degree of Czech ancestry, and likewise most Czechs have some degree of German ancestry. For example, Ivan Lendl has a German sounding name, but according to all sources he's just Czech. We can't just assume Aurelia is Czech just because her family name appears to be. Same is true for the apparent great-grandfather Mach; he could've been a Sudeten German. Unless Schwarzenegger or a more credible source provides definitive proof that Arnold was part Czech, I don't think the article should just assume he is. --NHV140 (talk) 04:53, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Wrong link
Link to „Arnold. The Education of a bodybuilder“ in the Books section leads to an archive.org file with a completely different concern. Ecwit (talk) 17:25, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

'Triplets' upcoming film
On the Jimmy Kimmel show filmed/broadcast in Feb 22, Schwarzenegger and Kimmel discussed the upcoming film 'Triplets' which Arnold said he would begin filming in the fall (2022). Director, Ivan Reitman, starring Tracy Morgan, A.S. and Danny DeVito. It would be good to get this added to the appropriate section - 4.4, Return to acting. Video is available on YT. Sadly I don't have edit permissions. 86.31.110.76 (talk) 22:40, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Red Sonja
Red Ronja has not been mentioned under filmography. 129.0.76.70 (talk) 21:19, 28 August 2022 (UTC)


 * It is listed in the main listing here: Arnold_Schwarzenegger_filmography. -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 21:45, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

This is wrong - it’s not post-divorce. It’s during marriage.
In June 2022, a jury ruled that Maria Shriver was entitled to half of her ex-husband's post-divorce savings that he earned from 1986 to 2011, including a pension.[211] 2600:1700:B170:F188:1018:7436:690F:1B4C (talk) 08:49, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2023
Add the 1985 movie “Red Sonja” to Arnold’s filmography. Thank you! 2600:1700:53F7:9040:24F8:23F0:78B5:CC7F (talk) 14:30, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Already covered at Arnold Schwarzenegger filmography RudolfRed (talk) 01:40, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect date on his divorce. It should be 2011 or 2021
Please correct date! 64.18.11.71 (talk) 18:08, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2023
On March 6, 2023, Aarnold Schwarzeneggar received an honorary Doctorate of Public Service from Stockton University in Galloway, New Jersey.

Official Board Ratification: https://stockton.edu/board-of-trustees/documents/BOT-OS-02-22-23.pdf] Eli weitz (talk) 17:51, 6 March 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅ Edward-Woodrow (talk) 22:36, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Can't fix mistake
"...and wished for his sons to become a champion in Bavarian curling."

According to the source, his father "...wanted his sons to follow in his footsteps as a champion...". So it should be:

"...and wished for his sons to become champions in Bavarian curling." Dornwald (talk) 00:13, 19 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Done. (Actually spotted in course of routine edit, but it's the thought that counts. 😁 ) – AndyFielding (talk) 08:15, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * "...His father Gustav was an athlete, and wished for his sons to become champion ls in Bavarian curling."
 * Still wrong i'm afraid to say :) Dornwald (talk) 02:44, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Spelling Error
in the early life section it says "Gustav Sarried Aurelia" I assume that it's supposed to say married. 95.197.74.199 (talk) 21:03, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Cullen328 (talk) 21:30, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Father's wound
This says Arnold's dad, Gustav, was wounded in Stalingrad. But in Gustav's article it says it was Leningrad. Not likely they're both true. 70.161.8.90 (talk) 14:13, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2023
Change the divorce date from 2021 to 2012 2603:8080:7700:183:BC14:284F:EEB0:8762 (talk) 06:39, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: read the article and the cited sources Cannolis (talk) 08:25, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Aurelia Jadrny (mother) not listed in "Parent" category
In his new Netflix docu-series, he speaks very fondly of his mother, Aurelia. More so than his father. Whether or not, a lot of info is known about her, she should, at least, be listed as a "parent", along side his father. 2603:7080:E73B:8617:E456:C489:52B3:6273 (talk) 19:09, 8 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Agreed. For accuracy and since Arnold does bring her up in his Netflix docu-series, it is relevant to add his mother as a "parent" in the article.  This seems like key information to me. WP:KEY  Pickalittletalkalittle (talk) 19:29, 27 June 2023 (UTC)