Talk:Artsruni dynasty

Articles for Deletion debate
This article survived an Articles for Deletion debate. The discussion can be found here. -Splash 23:13, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Simonian. "Hamshen Before Hemshin", p. 31. and the 1544 date
Sourceable version is here. It doesn't mention 1544. If it helps, p.31 does say "That Hemshin was under Ottoman control in the 1520s is confirmed by thecolophon of a manuscript anthology on the poetical works of Nerses Shnorhali and other authors..." but I can't find 1544 anywhere. Doug Weller talk 11:06, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Ok ill adjust the information as is discussed here Cirflow (talk) 00:28, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Hey would you mind adding that viewable source for me? I cant copy paste on Mobile: I’ll Thank you for your edit. Cirflow (talk) 04:05, 27 July 2018 (UTC)


 * No, the source does not indicate that the Arstruni dynasty existed or ended then. It doesn't even mention the dynasty. In fact it never uses either word. It just says that Hemshin was in Ottoman hands for the first half of the 16th century. This article doesn't mention Ottomans. Doug Weller  talk 11:20, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Use of a Wordpress blog
This clearly fails WP:RS. Doug Weller talk 11:10, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

However, it is shown it was originally published at a College, making it acceptable. Cirflow (talk) 00:29, 27 July 2018 (UTC)


 * First, what does "originally published at a college" mean to you and why would it be acceptable? Secondly, nothing there suggests it was originally published at a college. There's a pargraph in italics which ends with "Published in Wayne State University" and then the blog post "Accoring to the research by Vahan Ishkhanyan and my research". It obviously fails WP:RS. Doug Weller  talk 11:16, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Simonian, Hamamshen dispute
What, in any way, is wrong about my 863 character well cited edit that you must revert it incessantly? You continue to say it does not adhere to WP:RS but dont say why because it is reliable you just want to edit war over it instead of make consensus. Me and User:Doug Weller are working together, so why can’t User:Wikaviani and User:LouisAragon? Cirflow (talk) 04:02, 27 July 2018 (UTC)


 * It's possible that you believe that, but what I've been doing is trying to explain to you continually that you are misrepresenting sources, and you still don't get it. Doug Weller  talk 11:21, 27 July 2018 (UTC)