Talk:As-Sadaka

Reactions
User:Soman, note that many articles on the Middle East have public response sections. For example, Gaza flotilla raid, has an entire section on Reactios and that section appears to have spawned an entire article  Reactions to the Gaza flotilla raid. Media coverage of a swimming pool is significant. I am replacing the material. If you want to discuss this further, we should ask for comment form other editors.AMuseo (talk) 16:23, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * But this is not about "public response". There is no mention at all how it was received by Gazans. It only deals with 1) a blog post of a pro-Israeli commentator, in which the pool was mentioned as a passing reference, 2) it was picked up by Israeli gov't, that used it in a cynical propaganda stunt and 3) subsequent comments, in favour and against, on the proganda stunt itself. There is to my knowledge, and can not see in any links you have added, any actual debate about the pool itself. A possible (which I'm at this point only suggesting for hypotectical discussion) would be to split the article in A) As-Sadaka Athletic Club (with info on history, football team, medals won, etc., and the pool) and B) an article on "June 2010 Israeli gov't attempt to whitewash abuses against the people of Gaza by stating that the Gazans don't need any human rights protection since there is a nice restaurant and a decent pool" (...or finding a more npov article name). Why do the Gazans cry for bread, when they can eat cake? --Soman (talk) 17:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The swimming pool exists. This is an article about it.  It is notable partly because the public response has been an international flurry of op-eds.   They are appropriately covered in the article.AMuseo (talk) 18:26, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I trend to agree with AMuseo. The notability of this pool rests primarily on the extent it has been featured in the propaganda war between pro-Palestinian supporters and pro-Israel supporters. Without that controversy, I don't think we can have an article about the pool itself - pools are not normally notable by themselves. HupHollandHup (talk) 16:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)


 * The sentence...
 * "Soon after the inauguration of the pool, its existence was cited by Israeli government spokespersons as contradicting the notion that the people of Gaza suffer from a humanitarian crisis."
 * ..was changed to...
 * "Soon after the inauguration of the pool, its existence was cited by Israeli government spokespersons as demonstrating the complexity of the economic situation in Gaza."
 * Neither are sourced. The first one sounds like something the GPO might say. The second one doesn't.  Sean.hoyland  - talk 17:14, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The material is sourced and significant. And the NPOV title for such a section in "Reactions".AMuseo (talk) 22:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

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