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  1. Well-written: The article needs a good copyedit. It isn't consistent in its use of units. The infobox contains spelled out units and instances where imperial units are left out. Also, the lead says the island is 51 square kilometers when the sources clearly state something else. If you decide to round off, it should be rounded up, but I prefer just giving the correct number. The lead is an accurate summary of what's currently in the article, but as stated below, I think it should be expanded. The West coast is "always either flat or uneven" (with this sentence you covered all possible outcomes, making it a useless description. Later on you mention "a vegetation of wood" which is odd considering the earlier comment on a lack of trees. In general, the main body of the article contains several repetitions of information that hinder the flow of the narrative (especially the history section). When I read the sources, I got the feeling several sections were copied literally the phrase about the donkeys "reproducing in freedom" was literally taken from the source.
  2. Factually accurate and verifiable:
    "Italian for "Donkey-inhabited" but its name comes from Latin "Sinuaria" and means sinus-shaped island" None of the sources appear to cover this and they say the albino donkeys give the island its name, but the word "donkey-inhabited" is never mentioned; the island could also be named after that specific breed of donkey.
    Two of the sources appear to be closely related with one being a copy of the other. I'd recommend finding books or articles about the island to add to the list.
  3. Coverage: I'm left with all sorts of questions when I read the article. The article states the island is home to several unusual animals but only mentions the donkeys. it doesn't go into detail about the scrub vegetation and it also doesn't mention where the 700 inhabitants come from. The original people who lived there were moved when the jail was in working order, so when it closed, did they come back, do the people who worked there still live on the island? Also, where on the island do they live? Are they spread around or do they live together in settlements? 49 miles of the 62 mile coastline is protected. What are the non-protected areas? Swimming is allowed on only 3 beaches are those the 3 sand beaches or do they include rock beaches? The article also doesn't provide any coverage of any famous buildings or monuments on the island. It says there is a prison, but doesn't go into architectural detail about it and I'd be interested to know what the structure on File:Asinara-Island01.jpg is.
  4. Neutral: No problems here.
  5. Stable: No obvious problems.
  6. Illustrations: All the image copyrights check out.

As a whole I don't think the coverage and writing are sufficiently developed to grant GA status. Since solving the issues I found takes a lot of time, I don't putting it on hold would help. Sorry!- Mgm|(talk) 09:36, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there are a lot of inconsistent, sometimes contradictory, statements in there as of this writing. A concerted effort would be needed to work those out. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 18:27, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To help anyone trying to improve this article, here are the points of the GA review, formed as a Checklist:

  • It isn't consistent in its use of units.
I think I've fixed all of the inconsistencies of units. PRB (talk) 12:48, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The infobox contains spelled out units and instances where imperial units are left out.
This appears to already be fixed PRB (talk) 12:48, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The lead says the island is 51 square kilometers when the sources clearly state something else. If you decide to round off, it should be rounded up, but I prefer just giving the correct number.
I've kept (but corrected) the rounding of the area, as the two sources give conflicting values (51.5 & 51.9 km2). PRB (talk) 12:48, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Expand lead.
  • The West coast is "always either flat or uneven" (with this sentence you covered all possible outcomes, making it a useless description.
This appears to already be fixed PRB (talk) 12:48, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Later on you mention "a vegetation of wood" which is odd considering the earlier comment on a lack of trees.
This has been reworded ("characterizes the island landscape together with the woody vegetation"), but not clarified. PRB (talk) 12:48, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • In general, the main body of the article contains several repetitions of information that hinder the flow of the narrative (especially the history section).
  • I got the feeling several sections were copied literally the phrase about the donkeys "reproducing in freedom" was literally taken from the source.
This particular phrase has been removed, but the problem may still stand PRB (talk) 12:48, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Source for "Italian for "Donkey-inhabited" but its name comes from Latin "Sinuaria" and means sinus-shaped island"
  • Two of the sources appear to be closely related with one being a copy of the other. - Find more
  • The article states the island is home to several unusual animals but only mentions the donkeys
Several examples of fauna are now given PRB (talk) 12:48, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • it doesn't go into detail about the scrub vegetation
Several examples of flora are now given PRB (talk) 12:48, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • it also doesn't mention where the 700 inhabitants come from. The original people who lived there were moved when the jail was in working order, so when it closed, did they come back, do the people who worked there still live on the island? Also, where on the island do they live? Are they spread around or do they live together in settlements?
The population is now one. However, that raises another question: Who is he, and why does he live there alone? Is he a caretaker or ranger of some kind, a researcher or some belligerent old resident who refused to leave when it became a national park? PRB (talk) 12:48, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • 49 miles of the 62 mile coastline is protected. What are the non-protected areas?
  • Swimming is allowed on only 3 beaches are those the 3 sand beaches or do they include rock beaches?
  • The article also doesn't provide any coverage of any famous buildings or monuments on the island. It says there is a prison, but doesn't go into architectural detail about it and I'd be interested to know what the structure on File:Asinara-Island01.jpg is.

I've crossed off all the points that I think have already been dealt with (either by me or a predecessor)PRB (talk) 12:48, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]