Talk:Austin–Bergstrom International Airport

Frontier Destinations
It's basically impossible to determine where Frontier flies from Austin directly via their own website. Looks like the best method instead is to use Kayak's "direct" feature, which appears to top out at 20 destinations. Iansltx (talk) 05:02, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

San José vs San Jose
A bit of semantics here, but should it have the é or e. San José usually is associated with the one in Costa Rica, while San Jose usually is associated with the one in California, however I don't think it is technically incorrect to say San José, CA.63.246.176.247 05:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Top carriers
According to the Austin Business Journal (November 27, 2006), United Airlines has closed the gap on Delta Air Lines for the fourth top carrier at ABIA. The difference in October was only about 5,000 passengers. Here's the list:

October 2006

 * LUV, 247,646 (up 5 percent compared to 10/2005)
 * AAL, 194,750 (up 3.5 percent)
 * COA, 91,793 (up 7 percent)
 * DAL, 49,936 (down 5.5 percent)
 * UAL, 44,267 (up 8.5 percent)
 * NWA, 20,288 (down 27 percent)
 * USA/AWE, 20,198 (down 14 percent)
 * JBU, 19,710
 * FFT, 16,101 (up 25.5 percent)

January to October 2006
Clipper471 17:51, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * LUV, 2,422,220 (up 10 percent)
 * AAL, 1,911,030 (up 6 percent)
 * COA, 836,625 (up 10 percent)
 * DAL, 472,342 (down 15.5 percent)
 * UAL, 408,388 (up 0.5 percent)
 * USA/AWE, 220,679 (down 1 percent)
 * NWA 203,058 (down 30 percent)
 * JBU, 183,407
 * FFT, 152,340 (up 13 percent)

local color
There are several Austin-local concessions in the gate area. Originally there were plans to try to integrate the airport more with the life of the community, but everything got stuck behind security checkpoints after 9/11... AnonMoos (talk) 11:38, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Street Address
Added street address to article: 3600 Presidential Boulevard, Austin, Texas. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 01:54, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Virgin America use of the term Nerd Bird
Virgin America named one of their planes #nerdbird referring to a SFO->BOS flight. Also confusing matters, a charter of the Virgin America #NerdBird from AUS->LAS to the CES 2013 flight was frequently referred to as a NerdBird flight. The specificity of the flight segment gets further watered down by Virgin America with Nerd Bird references to LAX->SFO and upcoming SFO->AUS service. Nerd Bird seems to have morphed into a term referring to a technology employee commuter flight and not a specific flight segment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stagr.lee (talk • contribs) 17:14, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * FWIW, American's AUS-SJC flight was called the "nerd bird," although this was probably a colloquialism and not used in marketing. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Facilities section editing
Recently I heard a rumour that the South Terminal will be reopened with Allegiant, Public Charters, and Frontier possibly moving to the South Terminal facility.

I'm thinking that if and when that happens we should move the terminals from the "Facilities" section into its own "Terminals" with the subheadlines "Barbara Jordan Terminal" and "South Terminal" respectively.

Thoughts?

EricTheLinguist (talk) 09:49, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

American Eagle service to ORD
American Eagle started this on May 7, 2015 and flights ended on June 4, 2015. This service is then a Saturday only seasonal service with flights bookable on aa.com in October 2015 until March 2016. So therefore this is a seasonal flight and start date is not needed as per WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT. 97.85.113.113 (talk) 00:27, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

South Terminal Reopening Negotiations are Being Finalised
According to the city council they are looking to reopen the South Terminal (Item B). It's up for consideration on 18 June. P.S. What's the situation with the page being locked due to an editing dispute? EricTheLinguist (talk) 22:11, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 08:38, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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~ Delta designates AUS as a focus city `~
"Last year, Delta designated Austin as one of its four “focus cities” with the potential for more direct flights and larger planes" ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 22:02, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

"The SkyTeam Alliance carrier classifies Austin [...] as focus cities" and the article continues with the following quotes; "We've chosen these focus cities based on a strong economic environment and, really, areas where we think the Delta product will really make a difference," "Delta wants to be the premier network carrier in all these markets,"
 * The director responsible for "network planning at Delta" Amy Martin was quoted to say:
 * and "managing director" of Ailevon Pacific, Brad DiFiore said "on the focus city strategy":

Southwest Flight 1392
As I write this, the Flight 1392 ground fatality incident has a Wikipedia article, but it is being considered for deletion so I did not link it. I'll circle back once the issue is resolved. Carguychris (talk) 14:24, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Graphic "sourced" to Wikidata query
This reversion of my reversion re-added a graphic whose only hint of its provenance is a little line, "See [https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fyear%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%28MAX%28%3Fnumber%29%20AS%20%3Fpassengers%29%0A%20%20%28SAMPLE%28COALESCE%28%3Freference_URL%2C%20%3Fmonthly_reference_URL2%29%29%20AS%20%3Fsample_reference_URL%29%0AWITH%0A%7B%0A%20%20SELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3Fstatement%20%3Fdate%20%3Fyear%20%3Ftimevalue%20%3Fnumberperperiod%20%3Freference_URL%0A%20%20WHERE%0A%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP238%20%3Fairport_code%0A%20%20%20%20VALUES%20%3Fairport_code%20%0A%20%20%20%20%7B%0A%20%22AUS%22%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20p%3AP3872%20%3Fstatement.%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fstatement%20pqv%3AP585%20%3Ftimevalue%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20ps%3AP3872%20%3Fnumberperperiod.%0A%20%20%20%20%3Ftimevalue%20wikibase%3AtimeValue%20%3Fdate.%0A%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fstatement%20pq%3AP518%20%3Fapplies.%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fstatement%20prov%3AwasDerivedFrom%20%2F%20%28pr%3AP854%7Cpr%3AP4656%29%20%3Freference_URL.%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20FILTER%20%28BOUND%28%3Fapplies%29%3Dfalse%20%7C%7C%20%3Fapplies%20%3D%20wd%3AQ2165236%20%29%0A%20%20%20%20MINUS%20%7B%20%3Fstatement%20wikibase%3Arank%20wikibase%3ADeprecatedRank%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20BIND%20%28YEAR%28%3Fdate%29%20AS%20%3Fyear%29%0A%20%20%20%20FILTER%20%28%3Fyear%20%3E1949%29.%0A%20%20%20%20FILTER%20%28%3Fyear%20%3C%20YEAR%28NOW%28%29%29%29%0A%20%20%7D%0A%7D%20AS%20%25airport%0AWHERE%0A%7B%0A%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%23%20Get%20the%20sum%20of%20monthly%20values%20within%20a%20year%0A%20%20%20%20SELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3Fyear%20%28SUM%28%3Fmax_numberperperiod%29%20AS%20%3Fnumber%29%20%28SAMPLE%28%3Fmonthly_reference_URL%29%20AS%20%3Fmonthly_reference_URL2%29%0A%20%20%20%20WHERE%0A%20%20%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%23%20Get%20the%20maximal%20value%20and%20a%20sample%20reference%20URL%20for%20each%20unique%20month%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20SELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3Fyear%20%28MAX%28%3Fnumberperperiod%29%20AS%20%3Fmax_numberperperiod%29%20%28SAMPLE%28%3Freference_URL%29%20AS%20%3Fmonthly_reference_URL%29%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20WHERE%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20INCLUDE%20%25airport%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Ftimevalue%20wikibase%3AtimePrecision%20%3Fprec.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20FILTER%20%28%3Fprec%20%3E%209%29%23%20precision%20more%20precise%20or%20equal%20to%20month%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20GROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%20%3Fyear%20%3Fdate%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20GROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%20%3Fyear%0A%20%20%7D%0A%20%20UNION%0A%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Ftimevalue%20wikibase%3AtimePrecision%209%20.%0A%20%20%20%20BIND%20%28%3Fnumberperperiod%20AS%20%3Fnumber%29%0A%20%20%20%20BIND%20%28%3Freference_URL%20AS%20%3Fsample_reference_URL%29%0A%20%20%20%20INCLUDE%20%25airport%0A%20%20%7D%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3Fyear%0AORDER%20BY%20%3Fitem%20DESC%20%28%3Fyear%29 source Wikidata query]", just below it. When one clicks on that link to see the real source so one can confirm the data, one sees... well, one sees an SQL query. For most people, this is totally opaque, as it rather is for me, although I've worked with SQL myself. I see nothing here that tells me where the data points came from.

Bouzinac, your edit summary said, "Wikidata is not unsourced as it is the backbone of wikipedia, such as info for infoboxes", but that's exactly the problem with Wikidata, as it's not easy to see who's adding what from where. In this case, it's even more difficult, as the fields used for the query are not only hidden in the Wikidata, but the query itself comes out of the blue. Is this something you wrote? Has it been tested/approved/blessed by somebody? By whom? Where'd this all come from? &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 22:40, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It is not SQL but SPARQL, the query language Wikidata can be queried with. The code looks at first complicated because there are many calculation rules (add months if they are present, add years only if they have preferred/normal Wikidata rank, add international and domestic passenger same year if they are present, etc). If you go down the sparql, hit a blue arrow button and it will show both the figure and the source stating the figure. It queries the result from there https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1430913#P3872, which anyone can edit and update. The disadvantage is indeed it can look at first cryptic, but when one understoods, and the advantages are here, it's very simple to edit and update, with sources inside for each statements, available cross-wikis, cross pages, for instance here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_the_United_States#Statistics (AUS is not inside the US graph but you get the idea of Wikidata advantages, eg another example : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%A9roport_international_Austin-Bergstrom#Statistiques ). Another advantage is that a single file batch could update a whole bunch of airports with a file upload inside Wikidata, with sources in a few seconds. thus AUS has got fresh 2020 data :) You can ask questions to the https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Aviation, if you wish so. Tools that could help edit and find lack of data/correction data could be found here https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Aviation/Airport_traffic. Bouzinac (talk) 23:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, thanks for the information. I would never have clicked that arrow at the bottom if you hadn't pointed me to it. Is this a query you yourself wrote? Are there tools to help generate similar queries?
 * I don't much like the user-friendliness (meaning, "reader-friendliness") of this approach, as I don't think most readers would be impressed if they clicked through from the page they were reading, but I can see its usefulness for us editing types. I've been hesitant about doing anything in Wikidata, as I find the interface quite off-putting, but maybe I'll give it more of a chance after I look more closely at the links you've provided. Thanks, &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:33, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The UX experience of Wikidata is bad, I'm afraid to be agreeing with you ; but it's very useful when one comprehends how to use it. You can have a "excel-like" tabular data with that tool https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:WE-Framework. Some patronage queries I've worked with other people can be found there https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Bouzinac/Fr%C3%A9quentations . Other queries for airports (list in a country, search, etc : here https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Bouzinac/Airports_lists --Bouzinac (talk) 12:33, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello again. You might be interested into that "visual querying tool" here (still on testing stage) https://query-builder-test.toolforge.org/ --Bouzinac (talk) 13:54, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

#Accidents and incidents Sources
BhamBoi (talk) 17:38, 6 February 2023 (UTC)