Talk:Australian raven/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: IJReid (talk · contribs) 02:21, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Hey Cas liber, I'll take up this review. I have already read the lead and taxonomy, with only one comment: Have any cladograms on the genetic studies been published, and if so, could the most recent be added?
 * done. Have never tinkered properly with cladogram template before so am still learning (fumbling) my way. Still, it's there now. Feel free to adjust to make it look prettier Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:29, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

A few comments on the description:


 * The juvenile image could be moved to the juvenile paragraph
 * done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:46, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Some more info could be added to the juvenile paragraph, maybe more detail on the head?
 * got a tiny bit more - this is a bit hard.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:57, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * A little more overall description could be added.
 * easy to forget when dealing with an all-black bird! have added some info that gives a better idea of the bird's shape and dimensions - thanks for reminding me on this. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:57, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Vocalization is behaviour, not description.
 * this is a tricky one - most bird guides, and also bird Featured Articles, place calls in description section - I guess because it helps ID the bird, but also grouping how it looks and how it sounds together... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:22, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess in most birds it is. IJReid (talk) 20:36, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

More behavioural comments:


 * How long did the male live, as the article only says over 12 years after banding.
 * It's tricky - all I can go on is what the source says, which gives as accurate as possible a picture - so it was an adult male (hence 3 years old at least), plus 12 years. Unfortunately unlike trees, birds lack tree-rings so we can guess the bird was at least 15 and a half years old, but the source doesn't make that inference...so neither will I (not sure why) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:20, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Why not place "at least 3" in brackets directly behind "adult"? IJReid (talk) 14:40, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * that sounds like a good idea - done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:19, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * What the heck are "yabbies"
 * a freshwater crayfish in oz - my dad used to catch them all the time - linked to Common yabby  now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:46, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Good luck, IJReid (talk) 02:21, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Only a few more things to add, and then this article will be placed on hold:


 * There are many more images, a few of which could be used in the article.
 * have added one of western race. will try to find some that show new things managed to add some with eye colour changes over time. Unfortunately, we don't have any appropriately licenced images of nests or eggs.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:55, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * "Relationships with humans" as well as "Predators" could form subsections of a section titled "Conservation".
 * most of the predators and parasites section not about man-made threats, hence that would look odd. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:22, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok. IJReid (talk) 20:36, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * This article itself mentions nothing about the IUCN ranking, which would be placed within Conservation.
 * I'll chase that up - I generally put that in distribution and habitat if not an issue Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:22, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, as long as it's in their. IJReid (talk) 20:36, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * added now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:14, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Once all these queries are completed, the article should pass GA. The article is a good read :). IJReid (talk) 03:47, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

''The article is now a GA. Good job! :)''' IJReid (talk) 21:56, 19 October 2014 (UTC)