Talk:Authorised firearms officer/Archive 1

STUB class assessment Dep. Garcia ( Talk  |  Help Desk  |  Complaints  ) 11:45, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

=Development= What information should be added to this article to improve it? Without duplicating large quantities of information from other articles on the use of firearms by police in the UK, i cannot think of anything else to develop it. If anyone has any suggestions of topic areas then I would be happy to write on them. SW3C (talk) 11:23, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

current revert war
now on the brink of 3R.

'nature of the threat that they have historically faced ' is better than ' unique situation ' because it describes it more effectively. ' police services ' is the preferred term rather than ' forces ' (and we've all seen hot fuzz ;) ) ' previous role ' is better than ' unit ' because not all officers are from a unit. ninety:one 18:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

When its referenced, by all means put it their. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) ☺ 14:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * things like this don't need referencing. i could equally challenge what is there as unreferenced if that was the case ;) ninety:one 18:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, fair enough, we should change it to that order. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) ☺ 14:54, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * thank you :) ninety:one 15:02, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

MP5
The British Police weapons are semi automatic, they are not allowed to use fully auto so I dont think it is suitable to put the MP5 as a submachine gun because it does not fire in that way. (Police Mad Jack)
 * just because they are not allowed to doesn't mean the gun isn't a sub. unless you can prove they are modified so. ninety:one 14:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

It is undoubtably true that an MP5 is a Sub Machine gun, but what I was doing is not naming its classification of a sub, assualt rifle, bolt actionr ifle etc. I was simply naming the style in which the firearm fires its ammunition in. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) ☺ 14:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * how about we don't describe the gun in the caption, and stick with your description further down? that looks ok now. ninety:one 14:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad we have come to an agreement, I dont like bad feeling. =]. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) ☺ 14:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I changed it to submachine gun, a carbine isnt a weapon firing semi-automatically, its a shortened rifle. Its a submachinegun, thats been modified (If it has actually beed modified, and the officers in question arent just under orders) to fire it in semi-automatic. Also added semi-auto to the pistols, and changed them to lower-case. /SunTzu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.233.122.217 (talk) 06:11, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

The MP5 is a submachine gun, but UK police forces do not like to use the terms 'submachine gun' or 'assault rifle' (they used to use these terms but they created a lot of contreversy as they sound too military - although i doubt that ACPO would admit that this is the reason for the change). Therefore they classify weapons which would normally be called submachine guns or assault rifles as 'carbines'. Hope that helps. SW3C (talk) 03:13, 14 August 2008 (UTC)