Talk:Autonomy

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Typo in introduction
the introduction says: "respect for the autonomy of patients is an important goalas deontology"

"goalas" is clearly part of the typo here but I am not sure what the sentence is intended to say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.63.212.58 (talk) 01:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

the statement was wrong anyway, unsourced I cannot see what was originally meant BUT deontology means ethically correct from the outside pressure of a god, rule or system. So autonomy cannot be deontological by definition. PERHAPS the original text said something like the Hippocratic oath is a deontology which paradoxically grants patients autonomy. But that is just my speculation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.33.19.171 (talk) 17:04, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Expansion of Autonomy and Medicine section
The Medicine section can be further fleshed out, particularly with more global understandings of medical autonomy. Would creating an article dedicated to the topic be warranted? Khanzar (talk) 19:09, 10 September 2015 (UTC)Khanzar

Clarification
I am having a problem, perhaps someone could assist me ....

Its mentioned in the article

"Autonomy is not independence"

Random House dictionary

au•ton•o•my   (ô ton‚ƒ mŽ)  n., pl. -mies
 * 1. independence or freedom, as of the will or one's actions.
 * 2. the condition of being autonomous; self-government or the right of self-government; independence.
 * 3. a self-governing community. [1615–25; < Gk]

Thank you chance0 April 23, 2005

Kurdistan
Kurdistan officially does not hold any autonomy!

Autonomy is
Autonomy includes in its very concept the idea of pratical or material independence. Although one can say, as a stoic, that it is possible to be autonomous without actual freedom, it is not, because the human thinking and desiring is not at all without purpose and the one who wishes hopes to realize. Autonomy as a principle, rooted in human nature as generally we have in the iluminism and mostly in the liberalism, is not a concept in the realm of the wishfull thinking, it aims actual realization and was an instrument to criticize authoritarianism of pre-capitalist societies. It is a up to date problem how to organize human collectives with actual individual autonomy, specially if we consider the huge problem of free choice, free expression and free acting in the real realm of production, distribution and consume, that is, in economy. Most of the main contemporary authors that write about freedom and autonomy disguise this question and only consider autonomy in the realm of dialogue, politics or reason.

Paulo Fleury - 01/08/2006

the above is not very clearly written or particularly explanatory, it should be re-written 13:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)robat

AFD result - keep
 Rob ert  00:20, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

"Space Section" Renaming
The space section of this article seems to be basically about robotics and AI.

So scholars would rename the section "Artificial Intelligence" with a subheading for space.

However there isn't enough information there for artificial intelligence, since most of it is about space.

Also, according to Manual of Style " Autonomy in Space does not relate to the socio-political definitions, here we are talking about a device that can make basic or convoluted decisions based on LOGIC (in an electronic usage), the X37b Military Space Plane is a great example!" isn't phrased correctly due to the "we" and the "!"

I will change this if not corrected in 30 days, so the author has time to correct this grammar and functional error α_MCCCXXXVII_† 21:24, 18 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alpha1337Saint (talk • contribs)
 * I will find some examples but it is poor taxonomy to have the section labelled space and then contain other usage. Space is a subset of "autonomous" robotics JPelham (talk) 13:12, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Hot Topic in Science R&D
Autonomy is being distinguished from traditional autonomous systems by Defense Agencies as being able to collect data, analyze, and solve complex problems without human intervention; that is, they look to emulate human cognition and decision making. Traditional autonomous systems have very specific functions based completely on predefined and programmed inputs without the ability to handle complex disturbances.

Autonomy and its use in intelligent systems and cognitive models is becoming a major theme inside such circles. Additionally, it is a key component of advance manufacturing techniques including "big data", "visual cueing" and "sensing"

My point is, the term autonomy is becoming far more commonly used as a science and technology term than is currently being explained in this article as an afterthought of space technology. I'd argue its place in science and technology is far more important than its place in the liberal science disciplines.

At the very least, their should be links towards autonomous robots, thought autonomy (S&T sense) doesn't refer just to robots, but any system (software, static sensors, etc)

If I have time, I'll try and work on this but I hope some people more knowledgeable in the field of autonomy (S&T sense), can work on it.

-JK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.238.51.131 (talk) 15:28, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

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The Piaget section is in need of editing
There are sentence construction issues and missing words throughout the section on Piaget. I would edit it if I weren't only here to learn about autonomy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:241:8103:C2E0:6233:4BFF:FE16:6ED (talk) 17:07, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

This is a curious comment in the Introduction:
''"It has been discovered by scientists that autonomy is human capacity to free will, the center for autonomy is completely independent from circumstance or environment." ''

When was this "discovered" and who discovered it? It seems to me this is an interpretive opinion, not a scientific fact or conclusion. --75.67.75.112 (talk) 01:40, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Religion section
The "Religion" section, beginning with the paragraph before "The disestablishment process" through the end of that sub-section, has some curious opinions. It is based heavily on a single, offline source by Philip E. Hammond. It involves a novel theory of "three disestablishments", and is Protestant-centric. I am not sure why it needs to be in this broad-topic article at all. 2600:8800:1880:9A3:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 05:50, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Also the religion section is very Christian heavy, other religions have views about autonomy, they might not be as western oriented but they would still be applicable for this section.--A-humble-friend (talk) 19:57, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Autonomy
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Autonomy's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "DD": From Åland Islands: [http://www.sudd.ch/event.php?lang=en&id=ax011994 Åland-Inseln (Finnland), 20. November 1994 : Beitritt zur EU] Direct Democracy From United States:  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:02, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Artificial Intelligence Autonomy
Would discussing the role of autonomy in artificial intelligence and autonomous weapon systems be a good addition to this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FinnSoThin (talk • contribs) 01:33, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I think mentioning these topics would be good if backed by reliable sources. However, they do not merrit a section on their own. They could be added to the list in Autonomy, which already covers artificial intelligence in terms of robotics. Phlsph7 (talk) 04:06, 21 May 2022 (UTC)