Talk:Bésame Mucho

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i think suenos de arizona is the spanish title of arizona dream.thus i am removing it.

necessary to cut somewhat in the amount of information?
Do we really need to know about "Dancing with the Stars" and "American Idol"? This could be on the respective participants' page instead...

Sung marvellously by Omara Portuondo!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.10.205.159 (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

List removed
As I usually do to commonly recorded standards, I've removed the highly selective list of performers, as it would perhaps be easier to make a list of singers who have not performed the song. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 07:09, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Why not to create an article with the list in it only and leave a reference to it in this article?--Rubikonchik (talk) 17:21, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Go right ahead, though any particular selection of artists (the song has been recorded a zillion times) will be original research. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 19:04, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

How is "the song has been recorded a zillion [sic] times" not original research?
 * JimCubb (talk) 03:44, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * One is allowed original research on talk pages; just not in articles.


 * I've removed the list again. This was worse than most; bunches and bunches of red links. Please do not re-add the list. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 03:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * And again, seven years later. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 14:52, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * And again. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 14:23, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Truly, a deletionist's job is never done.Thank you for keeping us in the dark. NRPanikker (talk) 18:05, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Discrepency with the song writer's age
This article says the song was written in 1940 before her 16th birthday, yet the Consuelo Velázquez page says she was born in 1916. That would make her 24 by 1940.

Jinjiro (talk) 02:47, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I Imagine

Unless you are a highly regarded music critic of some sort, you shouldn't use personal thoughts on an encyclopedic entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.24.232.242 (talk) 06:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, after following the link on the page itself (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/30/obituaries/30velazquez.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=consuelo%20Velazquez&st=cse), it says that she wrote the song when she was 25. I quote- "she wrote the original Spanish lyrics for "Bésame Mucho" when she was 25". It's the New York Times obituaries, so I guess it must mean at least something. On a slightly unrelated note, note the horrendous headline. To someone unfamiliar with the history of the song, it is tremendously difficult to parse meaningfully. 218.186.13.249 (talk) 18:36, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

I have removed the use of the first-person. It is not correct tone for an encyclopedia. However, I have not removed the actual phrase. This means it now reads as heresay and needs a source added or to be removed or rewritten completely (see the Wikipedia section on "Weasel-words"). 82.2.182.82 (talk) 05:09, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Yesterday inspired by Besame Mucho?
Regarding the fears of Paul McCartney about the presumed imitation of Yesterday, we should pay attention to the following: Checking the scores of pieces from different composers, which were played by the Beatles, we should notice that in the famous song composed by Consuelo Velasquez "Besame Mucho", the musical structure of the intital phrases is very similar to the ones of Yesterday, furthermore, the harmonic composition, follow the same parameters in the two melodies, without one being a copy of the other. One should notice McCartney's inclination towards Latin American music, specially "Besame Mucho", which he sang and recorded at least twice without commercial interest. Recording "Till There Was You", was one of his ideas. The song is more or less a bolero sang in English by himself. Paul McCartney once wanted to be named by the pseudonymous of "Paul Ramon", another evidence of his Latin American inclination. There is another coincidence between these two songs: "Besame mucho" is the most often recorded and most popular spanish speaking song of the Twentieth Century--190.159.165.80 (talk) 23:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)--190.27.180.23 (talk) 01:10, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

We list Yesterday (song) as being the most covered song of all time. 74.177.94.226 (talk) 23:08, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Obvious promotion
Removed the bit about Vitas and the so-called "diamond voice" of the world; IMHO "diamond" accurate in the sense that it cuts right through anything and leaves a deep scar. Anyway cut it out, along with the Youtube link. 218.186.13.249 (talk) 18:21, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Another Movie
This song was featured in "The Cowboy and the Senorita" with Roy Rogers and Dale Evans, 1944. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.10.99.99 (talk) 00:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Earlier recording should be mentioned
There's a 1940 recording by Los Cadetes del Swing: https://adp.library.ucsb.edu/index.php/objects/detail/48523/Victor_Mexico_76271 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_2NiEio0Rk https://frontera.library.ucla.edu/recordings/besame-mucho-20 2001:9E8:14B3:CC00:F844:FB9C:9E0C:9362 (talk) 17:24, 20 July 2024 (UTC)