Talk:Bacha bazi

Current treatment under the Taliban
Just to remind people, all of the discussion about it´s outlaw is from the time of 1996-2001, when the Taliban had control, but let´s not forget that the Taliban currently has control of all Afghanistan, surely it is currently illegal, and presumably carrying the death penalty as it did under the Taliban´s original reign? StrongALPHA (talk) 11:30, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2023
You have to prove it’s common in the history of turkestan area. There is no source for it. 24.133.86.242 (talk) 20:54, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 21:18, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * No it`s VERY CLEAR what changes that you are asked for to make. The source in the article doesnt mention "historical turkestan" at all although it doesnt seem like a reliable source. Moreover there is no proper source mentioning that this practice has been observed in "HISTORICAL TURKESTAN" except some Quora posts. Also I couldnt see anything mentioning "historical turkestan" in any other sources listed. It must be difficult to not understand the objection here, maybe considering to drop wasting your time on wikipedia and get some help for better literacy skills? Fatmaakman (talk) 14:31, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2023
Add the category "Rape of males". 5.61.122.219 (talk) 09:39, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅, looks acceptable. Zenomonoz (talk) 21:20, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Origins
I have searched around for some reliable data on the origins of this practice. The data I have added regarding it being traced to the 9th or 10th Centuries was redrafted from https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/17dlk1f/how_old_and_common_is_the_afghan_tradition_of/

The scholar writing on that Reddit page added that Ingeborg Baldauf speculated that the practice might have originated either via Alexander's invasion of what is today Afghanistan (c. 320 BCE) and Hellenistic influence on the Mazar-i-Sharif area, or influence from the greater Chinese region.

The German monograph by Baldauf seemingly covers the question of origins at pages 77-96. Buckshot06 (talk) 20:37, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2024
"It is a custom in Afghanistan and in historical Turkestan and often involves sexual slavery and child prostitution by older men of young adolescent males.[4]"

This is the 2nd sentence in the 1st paragraph in which the source doesnt include such statement as "historical turkestan", in fact it`s not observed in any central asian countries including tajikistan and uzbekistan which are only mentioned in the source. Moreover, the link/source is just an article written by a god-knows-whom, since when simple magazine articles are reliable sources for wikipedia? In several ACADEMIC sources, this area where this practice historically has been observed is referred as "central asia" which is understandable and accurate since there is not sufficient proofs that the "custom" has ever been observed in all "turkic states" and/or cultures except uzbekistan, and yet the other countries outside of afghanistan are tajikistan and pakistan, in fact none of these countries are turkic.

This INTENTIONAL EFFORT to spread MISINFORMATION through Wikipedia is extremely common, in particular, in the content related to turkic and turkish history. This will have consequences SOONER OR LATER and wikipedia will be sued due to this misuse unless the administration does not take any precautions. Fatmaakman (talk) 14:12, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 22:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2024
There is no mention of Turkestan in the provided source, hence it must be removed from the line "It is a custom in Afghanistan and in historical Turkestan...".

If this is not removed a decent source must instead be provided. Thank you. Orpheus under influence (talk) 15:35, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Added a cn tag.   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 02:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)