Talk:Backstreet Boys/Archive 1

sept 11 here is the citation: http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/2001-09-16-backstreet-boys.htm

Pompertown, read that, let's get serious
This is the truth

Brian Littrell (Lead vocals and background vocals) - A.J. McLean (Lead vocals and background vocals) - Nick Carter (Lead and background vocals, sometimes plays Guitar) - Howie Dorough (Background vocals - usually the high pitch voice, and sometimes lead vocals) past_members =Kevin Richardson (Background vocals -usually the bass voice, sometimes lead vocals and sometimes plays Piano) (1993-2006) [Frank G ]] (Background  vocals - usually Baritone, sometimes lead vocals 2000-2005

Howie and AJ bass guitar?? since when?? All they ever do is suck cock! I'm a BSB fan and I have seen them performing in concerts, BSB don't play instruments except I have said above. Nick guitar sometimes (only 2 songs), drums??? do you mean to say 1 song in 10 years??? please let's get serious, Brian in his solo concerts, Howie and AJ bass guitar...at their home.

EDIT: IN RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE PARAGRAPH: There was a tour years ago where they "kicked their band off their instruments and played a song" and Brian played guitar when he sung his song "That's What She Said." Never seen them in concert, but I know this is true.


 * ^^ Response to the above paragraphs. On their tour before millenium, during Quit Playing Games (With My Heart) the boys did take over the stage. And during concerts many of the boys, during songs when they didn't have many vocals, would play an instrument. They've all played instruments during concerts.

Something about BSB
I'm a BSB fan, but I'm objective I don't think necessary to say Brian plays guitar in the line up, cuz he still never haven't played in the BSB concerts. He have learned to play kinda the guitar recently and he have performanced with it just in his solo tour "Welcome Home" in the US Backstreet Boys ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND WILL BE A VOCAL MALE GROUP. Sometimes Kevin have played piano in any song, sometimes Nick have played the acoustic or electric guitar (above all in the last tour), and drums...but that were years ago in a song. Other thing, I would put in the Nick Carter bio he knows play guitar, drums, etc. Not in the line-up. AJ can play bass guitar at home but not in the BSB performances.

Music genre...I have put "Organic Pop" since "Never Gone". The instrumentation (played by others) now is organic, live drums, live guitars, live bass...strings, etc. Before, they used to sing more over samplers, keyboards, synthetizers, electric drum beats...although there were guitars in the ballads, and real instruments too. "Never gone" can be considered a Organic Vocal Pop album, and it has Pop Rock songs, not for that that's Coldplay cuz they are Indie Pop/Rock Brit Music. The next BSB album is gonna follow with the Never Gone sound but there will be more Europop and R&B like in the beginning.

The previous sound of the group (Backstreet Boys-Black & Blue) were Pop, but we have to be more specific. BSB are a Pop band but a R&B-Pop one. Teen Pop could be considered so, it's a sound Urban Pop. I would put Urban Pop.Keep on eyes on this: BSB have harmonic R&B influences. They are really influenced by Boyz II Men, their mainly one. BSB aren't A1, not Westlife, not A-Teens, not Euro-Pop-dance and islands melodic Pop, they have recorded R&B songs, like "I'll never break your heart", "All I have to give", "Set adrift on memory bliss (R&B cover), "Just to be close, "Yes, I will", "No one else come close", "Like a child"...all of they Motown songs.

The line up I would say: Lead singers: Brian, AJ and Nick

Background singers: (sometimes they take the lead vocals) -Howie and Kevin. Kevin usually sings bass vocals and Howie falsetto vocals

Value judgements
This is really not the place to debate the singing talents of various boy bands. Can sing/can't sing are value judgements and not really necessary. Danny, who is now listening to Days of Future Past by the Moody Blues.


 * I agree, though it would be appropriate to debate the singing talents of the Backstreet Boys themselves. Hyacinth 00:20, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Are you kidding me? Have you HEARD them sing?? The Backstreet Boys really are fantastic singers. They almost sound better live then they do on their albums! -Stacy


 * I totally agree with you stacy. :) --Apple_1980


 * Btw, where the hell is the chart thingy? Who removed it? We need that chart!!!


 * I didn't say they where bad singers. What "chart thingy"? Check the page history. Hyacinth 08:22, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

i think the boys' voices are beautiful and i totally agree with u stacy and btw to find the chart thingy go to the boys' dicography and scroll down :) samantha


 * Anybody else find this little interaction to be perfectly fitting? I'm totally going to check out the 'N Sync talk page for some more moronic drivel. -MescalineBanana 06:56, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

NPOV
I think is article is NOT NPOV. Jeroenvrp 10:48, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

The line "They suck horribly." is pushing it on the POV. These types of statements are always hard to keep netural, but I think that the majority of the intended audience for their work would disagree with this statement, thus making it inappropriatly positive.

I wrote that line (in anon days) to leaven a previous, stronger POV. But yes, it is both debatable and unnecessary, so here it goes... Samaritan 06:59, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

This article is definitely pushing the lines of NPOV. Neutrality needs to be disputed.
 * The article is improving in this circumstance. Do we still need the tag? Harro5 21:52, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * I've done some more work. I'm not Backstreet Boys expert by any means, but I tried making it sound less 'fannish'.  While I don't think it violates NPOV, it could use more information and some more pruning. --Hamiltonian 01:25, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I say the article is FINE. Take the damn tag down. -Stacy


 * Some recent edits are definitely not NPOV. See edits by this user -> 202.168.255.2

Hey I'm tring to make this page complete in my own way l'm a huge bsb fan l know everything about them so please let me do this please don't change the page l'll add some pictures and some articles

Hey I'm tring to make this page complete in my own way l'm a huge bsb fan l know everything about them so please let me do this please don't change the page l'll add some pictures and some articles unsigned comments above 18:21, 26 November 2005 50cent aga

Wholesale revert
I do think the edits by 50cent are bit overboard, but wholesale reverting isn't the way to deal with it. There is good content being added, copy edit it and/or trim it a bit rather than trashing it all. CarbonCopy 20:18, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I'll keep limited sections, and delete the outrageously POV stuff. Harro5 21:43, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Missing album
Didn't they make a "Backstreet's Back" album after the first one "Backstreet Boys" and before "Millenium" ?


 * 1995 - Self-titled (international, with the maroon cover)
 * 1997 - Backstreet's Back (international with them leaning on the wall)
 * 1997 - Self-titled (US - almost the same cover as BSBack, just without the BSBack title. Compilation of songs from the first two international albums).

What the hell?
ahahahaha, who the hell compiled this page? *#$!#*

j/k Beatallica 22:14, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Please watch your words! Haisook 01:01, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Trivia - Grammys?
>>The Backstreet Boys gave 8 performances at the 2000 Grammy awards.

I think this is a misleading statement. What are these '8 performances' attributed to? Because it sounds like each song in the medley they performed is being counted as a performance... which I would argue is not a correct assessment. TheHYPO 20:24, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

RESPONSE::: I believe it's not a correct assessmnent. I know the boys performed a tribute to male groups (a medley), Show me the meaning of being lonely, and performed with Elton John. So 3 performances would be more correct.

More trivia: >>Backstreet Boys hold the record for being the World's Biggest Money Maker for Concerts and Album Sales since their debut in 1997 to 2005 with US$534 million according to Jive records and as ranked by Celender Magazine.

Is it the World's biggest money maker? if it's international, why would they start from the 1997 US debut and not the 1995 international debut. Seems like an odd statistic. TheHYPO 22:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

>>The Backstreet Boys have been ranked #22 on the Top 500 Pop Artists of the Past 25 Years list in 2005.

Whose list? is there a source?

Whose list? is there a source? - - Yes, go check www.rockonthenet.com

Trivia - unreferenced
Unless sources for the trivia statements are given, they will be deleted. Some of them are really unbelievable, like 1 million tickets sold during 24 hours (close to impossible physically). `'mikka (t) 15:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

No it is possible cause N'Sync also sold almost 1 million tickets on the 1st day of their NSA tour

-- Very possible. They said it on MTV News at the time and I have that recorded. It's on VCR, so, I couldn't post this here. But many websites like lauch.com or Billboard.com posted this news at the time. Could somebody try and find this in their archives?

And it's physically possible because most part of those tickets were reserved beforehand on internet pre-sales.

Similar Artists
At the end of this article, I found this list of "similar artists" to Backstreet Boys.

Bryan Adams

Kelly Clarkson

Aly & AJ

Hilary Duff

Simple Plan

Maroon 5

Matchbox 20

Coldplay

Rob Thomas

Savage Garden

I understand the usefulness of such a list as adding to the resources Wikipedia can provide, but some of these artists are a bit of a stretch in my opinion, especially Coldplay. I mean, yes, Incomplete is basically a rip-off of Clocks, and maybe the entirety of their newest album continued to coast on Coldplay's success with a similar musical style, but does the rest of their back catalogue really bear much similarity to Coldplay's? I'd question some of the other bands on this list as well (Simple Plan for sure), but I haven't listened to enough of them.

Perhaps All Music Guide's list of artists similar to Backstreet Boys might be of some use.--Mizry 23:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Genre
I changed from Pop Rock to Teen Pop that is their style (also AMG reports it). Pop Rock is wrong, because Pop Rock = REM, Smiths, earlier Radiohead etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.10.183.248 (talk • contribs).
 * I agree, but Pompertown is consistently reverting. He also refuses to discuss the matter. +Fin - 21:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I Still - International Single
"The third international single "I Still" debuted at #1 on the Japan International Singles Chart with 2,182 copies sold, making the first ever international single to enter at #1 on the chart in Japanese history" - This doesn't make sense to me. 2,000 copies of a single cannot reach #1 in Japan. Oricon (Japanese Billboard)'s lowest debut at #1 for a single is around 25k. If it's talking about the International Singles Chart then it doesn't make sense either since the chart is only composed of international artists anyways. That's like saying artist "A" is the first ever country artist to debut #1 on the Country Albums Chart. --Nikitashot 8:06, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

tracklistings
Why are the tracklistings for each album the BSB have released listed on this page? They should be listed on the respective album's page. Anyone else agree? -- Sarz 03:45, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Beginnings and International Successes: 1992–1996 has been vandalized
The section entitled "Beginnings and International Successes: 1992–1996" has been vandalized, including references to "New Kids on the Cock" and the boys being molested by Bill Cosby. This section should either be removed or completetly rewritten.

What happen to the rest of the article?
I just notice that most of the article abt their history, etc is now gone. What happened?

Penthouse?
Whoever edit that Kevin was in musical Broadway called "Penthouse" need to stop! Everyone knows that he's in "Chicago" playing Richard Gere's character Billy Flynn... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.75.96.109 (talk) 09:26, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

Trivia gone!
Worked trivia into some new sections. The sections need some more content & tweaking to be sure, but are a good starting point I think, and much much better than the ungainly & unwikified trivia section. I also put a citation needed tag because some of the veracity may still be doubtfull. Bantosh 16:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

The "During Their Break" paragraph(s)
I just corrected some punctuation in the second paragraph. The first paragraph is really muddled. Starts out talking about The Firm (management company) then suddenly is talking about Jive - their record label? It's not clear, and the relationship between The Firm and Jive is not clear. Also, the sentence beginning "The band's lawyer" is particularly confusing. I suspect it just needs minor edits, but I don't know anything about the band and don't want to attempt to fix it myself lest I make it clear but wrong. Kengwen 19:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Happily Never After
Would it violate copyright or any other laws/terms to link to the page where you can hear the stream of the leaked new single, "Happily Never After"? I'm not sure if it was leaked accidentally or purposely. I'm guessing the latter, but I don't know if it would be bad form to link to that page. For reference, the page is this. --Nelliebellie 21:13, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

New Album paragraph
Ah! Who added that paragraph under "New Album"? It sounds copied from a foreign magazine that wasn't very well translated into English. It's also redundant because it repeats information from previous paragaphs in the article. --71.113.90.208 16:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC) they are all in a homosexual relationship

Tallahassee is NOT the origin of the band
I've been a fan of BSB for 11 yrs. And i do know that the band is from ORLANDO not TALLAHASSEE! Gosh.... someone pls change this IMMEDIATELY! I really hate to see the facts abt the band being purposely messed up!

Backstreet Burk!
The article missed Backstreet Burk Parsons!

http://www.rts.edu/quarterly/winter01/parsons.html

Producer on New Album
Chuck Butler (has produced Nick Lachey, Brian Littrel) is a producer on the new album. I've looked for a piece of information on the internet to back it up, but I have dial-up. I'd like to add this fact, but I have no solid info on the web to back it up. It would be a true statement proven when the liner notes are read once the album is released. If someone could search for a piece of info that would go with this, I would be grateful. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk) -edit: You might be able to find something on his MySpace blog. 

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Picture (bsbpromo.jpg)
Does anyone find this picture disturbing, besides me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SayUnclePal (talk • contribs) 11:59, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Update on Unbreakable Info.
The Unbreakable Album Track list is available now. It was referenced on their website www.thebackstreetboy.com.

1. Everything But Mine 2. Inconsolable 3. Something That I Already Know 4. Helpless When She Smiles 5. Any Other Way 6. One In A Million 7. Panic 8. You Can Let Go 9. Trouble Is 10. Treat Me Right 11. Love Will Keep You Up All Night 12. Unmistakable 13. Unsuspecting Sunday Afternoon —Preceding unsigned comment added by SohmaYukiEiri (talk • contribs) 14:04, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Former Members?
Isn't Kevin still part of the band... just on hiatus? 68.77.163.234 22:45, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Who plays what instrument?
Do all the members just sing, or do they play instruments? This article can't even answer this basic question. Johnleemk | Talk 05:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)