Talk:Badami cave temples

Rename page
At some point, when I am ready to start working on this page, I want to rename this article "Temples of Badami" because there are several structural temples of importance in Badami, dating from the 6th to the 11th centuries, built in various architectural styles, in addition to the cave temples. This way I can consolidate all the monuments in this historic town and make the article worthy of a FA or a GA. The structural temples are the Bhutanatha temple, Mallikarguna group of temples, Malegitti Shivalaya, Upper Shivalaya, Yellamma temples etc.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 03:10, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Cave 5
There is a third theory behind the cave 5, which one enters by crawling. This theory is summarized by BV Shetti. It states that the image is neither of Buddha nor of Jaina. Shetti's 1995 publication in the Jain journal Nirgrantha (Vol 1, No. 2, pages 87-91), includes images, which shows the face in a reasonably good condition, which means the damage has occurred in last 20 years. Anyway, worth a read and a few summary sentences. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 04:17, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the editing inputs. You are doing great with your additions. Please add a few sentences from the above reference under cave 5. All imgs have to be shifted to the text part as at the GA stage no gallery is allowed. All sections except the lead should be referenced. I have restored references for Geography section. I will be more text under each cave. You are free to edit. I would appreciate if you kindly double check the refrences and its use. if any reference is not used it can be deleted from the bibliography section. Hopefully we can complete the article by tomorrow for posting first on GAN and later after approval of GA in DYK.-- Nvvchar . 04:47, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I added the alternate cave 5 theories for NPOV, as well as some sources to other sections. Is there anything else I can help with? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 17:12, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I would appreciate if you could remove all the duplicate links and also check for capitalization of the numbered caves. I have just done two hours of editing but still many oddities may be remaining. Also, please check references for any dead links. How do you fell about the flow of article? Shall I post it on GAN? Cheers!  Nvvchar . 03:10, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * @Nvvchar: I cleaned up what I could find. The article looks to be in a decent shape for a GAN review. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 03:51, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I will post it later in the day. Nvvchar . 03:57, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Problem of possible Repetition and accuracy
Some possible occurences of repetition (Disclaimer: I have never visited the caves, but have read a lot about them)
 * Cave 1
 * "Ganesha and Kartikkeya (Skanda, Mahasena) ... are seen riding a peacock" : Is Ganesha riding a peacock or only Kartikkeya?
 * "goddesses Lakshmi and Parvati to the left of Siva ..": they are depicted on the sides of Harihara in the panel, not as separate figures
 * "The ceiling also depicts Nagaraja, the king of the snakes" and "The roof in the cave has five carved panels with the central panel depicting the serpent Sesha" ... possibly the same sculpture is talked about
 * Ardhanarishvara is mentioned twice. There is only 1 Ardhanarishvara in the cave, I suppose.
 * Nandi, the bull, Bhringi, a devotee of Shiva, a female decorated goddess holding a flat object in her left hand are not distinct figures; but part of the Ardhanarishvara panel.
 * Fergusson says that Nandi, the bull is a form of Dharmadeva, the god of justice; which seems inaccurate. Also, Dharmadeva is described as a different sculpture, which it is not.

Also, it is ok to James Fergusson (architect)'s book to describe the cave's state in 1880 and contrast it with the present state, but to use it to describe the cave's current state (as the article does) seems to be problematic IMO. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:52, 26 December 2015 (UTC)


 * @Redtigerxyz: Yes, two Ardhanarishvara if I recall correctly, but I will check. I encourage and you to add sources and revise to address above points. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 15:07, 26 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Possibly, Cave 2 has the same problems: para 2 and 3 seem to be talking about the same sculptures.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 18:21, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Cave 1 and 3 show Ardhanarishvara (but not two per cave): search for Badami here to confirm. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 10:39, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I have addressed most of the issues referred above. But I am not clear about the para 2 and 3 of cave 2 and also on use of text James Fergusson (architect)'s book. I would appreciate if you could sort it out, if needed by deleting some text. Thanks.-- Nvvchar . 07:12, 5 January 2016 (UTC)