Talk:Barasana

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TABLE 1

VOWELS

i i  u e a o

[high]   + + +  -  - -

[back]   - + +  - + +

[round] -  - +  -  - +

TABLE 2

CONSONANTS

Coronal      Coronal

Labial [+anterior] [-anterior] Dorsal Laryngeal

[-sonorant] [-voice] [-continuant] p t c k

[+continuant] [-voice] [+spread gl.] h

[-sonorant] [ +voice] [-continuant] b d j g

[+sonorant] [+voice][ +continuant] w r

Gomez-Imbert, Elsa, & Kenstowicz, Michael, ‘Barasana Tone and Accent,’ p.421

This is a formatting problem, to be dealt with later.

In Table 1 there are six vowels to be classified plus or minus according to high, back and round

In Table 2 Coronal is two words in a line above plus anterior and minus anterior. In all [-sonorant] [-voice] [-continuant]

[+continuant] [-voice] [+spread gl.]

[-sonorant] [ +voice] [-continuant]

[+sonorant] [+voice][ +continuant]

Must be placed in a side column, each followed by 5 boxes to insert the relevant data about the consonants (i.e. p/ t/c/k/)Nishidani (talk) 10:10, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Population
Looking through the edit history, I think one user has a may have some WP:OWN issues. But hopefully we can get past that.

When I did some preliminary searching I noticed that several recent newspaper articles all used the same figure of 1890 speakers. I guess they all got the figure directly from their subject, the World Oral Literature Project which Hugh-Jones was involved with. I don't know what the provenance of the figure is but it comes up in the encyclopedia of the world's endangered languages. I was warned against using .ca so I replaced it with .it. --JGGardiner (talk) 09:44, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Heck you've got me worrying. I myself had a similar anxiety, aroused by the spectre of that menacing dog-leg edit by User:Adi4094, who looked like he was threatening to hijack this collective project we've all signed up on, in a classic manifestation of the wiki collaborative spirit. Perhaps we should draft something of a WP:OWN violation complain against him to dump into AN/I if this intrusive behaviour continues. I was raised on Lockean principles, and conflicts of ownership only occur when someone with clear title is challenged by some carpetbagger or another. In the meantime, could you consult with a few lawyers and get the three of us a holding company in the Caribbean where we can invest our corporate rights to this. I'm quite willing to keep up the parade of being the main author, but anecdotal evidence exists in abundance that I'm just a front-man, or Shabbos goy for two other ghostwriters, as witness my last edit this morning.Nishidani (talk) 11:08, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

What?
I do not understand what you mean by "dog leg edit".I was under the impression that I just corrected a spelling. --Adi4094 (talk) 09:13, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, Nish was only joking. I made a comment about him doing all the work around here and he jokingly deflected it with the reference to your single (and useful) edit.  "Dog leg" just means that it was in the middle of a bunch of his edits. --JGGardiner (talk) 09:40, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Good radio show dealing with Barasana
In 2009 CBC radio's lectures ran a series called the Wayfinders, amazing stories of complex pre-colonial societies, an exploration by Canadian anthropologist Wade Davis.

I'm no expert, but you guys may find extra info in this radio show, just listening to streaming radio the amazing story of the Barasana. It's available on CBC's radio website:, third audio stream called Peoples of the Anaconda.

Enjoy :)

--Tallard (talk) 04:05, 2 February 2010 (UTC)