Talk:Barbara Amiel

stylings
I believe the wife of a life peer is properly styles as "lady X of Y" and not "baroness X of Y", as the latter is the style of a woman life peer in her own right. Correct me if I'm wrong. Ulpian 19:57, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

It's not clear where she was born, although one can assume she was born in Britain from the subsequent paragraph? Mdecker london 08:09, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

David Irving
"However, in 1992 she defended David Irving in her Sunday Times column and has also defended Jean-Marie Le Pen."

The above quote has been removed from the article. The source is Irving's own site so we could do with further investigation. If anyone could find a copy of the July 5, 1992 edition of the Sunday Times to verify the article referred to it would be helpful. Catchpole 18:06, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Any further additions to the article should make it clear that the Irving writings were about free-speech issues, not Irving's Hitler revisionism. People of Jewish heritage who are strong supporters of Israel tend not to have much use for Irving's views. Implying that Amiel has, would look odd. 65.89.68.24 (talk) 16:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Involvement in Conrad Black's legal issues
Why is there no discussion of her many references in the legal proceedings against Conrad Black (e.g., lavish birthday parties paid for with corporate funds)?

How is this allowed? "Lord Black bought a full pardon from President Donald Trump in May 2019" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:41:C402:57D0:7DF9:2BAF:5D47:6675 (talk) 04:27, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Theory

 * The theory that she was any kind of "urchin" is based on her own assertion.

School friends say that she lived in a middle-class house at that time. She would have had difficulty getting into university if she had left formal education at the age of 14. It might have been difficult to get a job or dole at 14. I am not familiar with Canadian conditions at that time.

<><><><><> Something in her reported lifestyle does not add up; quite wierd actually. According to the UK Telegraph she owns a "$2.6 million, 26-carat diamond ring that he (Black) had bought for her" but nightly, her "day ends with hand laundry". Good grief, why would anyone with huge assets such as this bother to clean their underwear? For a few bucks a piece, why not wear a fresh, clean pair every day and save the laundry time at the sink? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/13/wconrad213.xml

Lots of rich people have simple tastes in some things, however lavish their lifestyle may be otherwise. Cooking at home is also popular with some of them, though they can afford cooks, and maids, and washers-up.

Also, for personal wear, lots of items are more comfortable when they are broken in, and you don't want to be getting new ones all the time. Shoes, for example. 65.89.68.24 (talk) 16:12, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Atheist?
I noticed recently that this Amiel has been tagged as an atheist. Nowhere in this article does it talk about her religious beliefs. Shouldn't a category addition need to rely on a reference to this? Unless someone does soon I will remove these categories. Atrian 13:54, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The NNDB entry in the external links section lists her as an atheist. Catchpole 15:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * NNDB is hardly a reliable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.72.27.204 (talk) 17:07, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Married Life
This section only references four of the five husbands listed in the side-panel. Valetude (talk) 00:00, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


 * And now the text has *more* husbands than those listed in the side-panel. What is going on?


 * The infobox was missing David Graham (Amiel's husband from 1984 to 1990). Now fixed and properly sourced in the main text. Philip Cross (talk) 08:49, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

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Legal action by Hollinger
What exactly was it about the Vogue interview that provoked Hollinger International to take legal action against the couple and other executives? It seems to have just been Barbara boasting how many fur coats she'd got. Valetude (talk) 19:59, 1 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Leading Hollinger shareholders were raising issues with the couple's apparent siphoning of money in 2001, so the Wikipedia article may still be overstating a direct link with the Vogue interview. Multiple sources do blame Black's marriage to Amiel and her spending as part of the reason for his downfall. However, very many of the sources cited are heavy with such gossip which is inappropriate to use. Philip Cross (talk) 07:52, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Amiel's dermatomyositis
surprised that no one has mentioned this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.69.65.128 (talk) 22:52, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I have just checked online sources for Amiel's medical condition, Dermatomyositis. None of them are sufficiently precise for a mention in the article. To prevent the issue being added to the article at a random point, a putative citation might indicate when Amiel was diagnosed with the condition. None of them do, even the Google Books preview of Amiel's memoir. Philip Cross (talk) 09:11, 10 November 2020 (UTC)