Talk:Bart Stops to Smell the Roosevelts

References to 1981 movie "Taps"
My section about references in this episode to the movie "Taps" has been removed twice now. Has anyone who removed it actually seen the movie, or even just the episode? This episode is overflowing with borrowed motives from the film, to the point of a direct verbal quote! By chance I have seen the movie just before the episode and I was astonished about the similarities. Yes, there is no online magazine or similar website stating this, but that's not because it is not a fact, it's probably because there is no website that deeply analyses every single Simpsons episode (Wikis don't count). And even if there is, it would need a rather experienced film critic to find that out. I have linked to the IMDb quotes section for the direct quote. This website should be fine. Which other sources do you need? And is it possible, in instances where the similarities are obvious, to state something on Wikipedia that has not been stated on another website? You should not need to find a source for similarities between audiovisual media, the source is the film material itself. My 2 Cents: I see this business of simply reverting an edit by a helpful person as just rude. 2.207.33.129 (talk) 17:05, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I would suggest that you took the time to read Verifiability, which is a Wikipedia policy. You have to find a reliable source if you want to include it. "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth". IMDb is not reliable, since it is user edited. --Maitch (talk) 17:11, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I have already read it, and even the policy on "No original research". In my mind, these rules, which are in part disputed anyway, allow an edit like this one, if they are interpreted liberally. E.g. you could rewrite the text to simply name the similarities. However, I hardly have the time or even want to start an edit war. My original point is made by this discussion being visible in the "discussions" section and the entry in the "history" section for future reference. Again, I recommend to watch both "audiovisual sources", as they are simply delightful. And if a source that is up to the standards of Maitch and Theleftorium turns up, you know where to find the text. 2.207.33.129 (talk) 17:35, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for understanding. This is a brand new episode, so it is highly likely that more information will be released over time. I have copied your text below so that people can add it if they find a proper source: --Maitch (talk) 17:49, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * "In line with the Simpsons' tradition of heavily referencing Hollywood movies, this episode's story loosely follows the 1981 motion picture Taps. Borrowed motives include, but are not limited to Bart's mentor figure and idol Chalmers and Roosevelt, respectively; the occupation of the school, which is held up even in face of a police force ready to storm the institution; the accidental shot of a gun as it hits the ground; Milhouse's surprising appearance in the end, screaming Tom Cruise's line "it’s beautiful, man!" and a short musical sequence featuring "military style" wind instruments and drums during the end credits."

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