Talk:Baton twirling

Merge
Shouldn't this article be merged with Majorette (dancer)? -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 00:48, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Article restructuring
This article needs some major restructuring. Angie Y. 09:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I would like to start working on this but it will take some time for sure. There are not a lot of reliable sources out there about baton, but this article has WAY too much opinion in it! Tahutton (talk) 00:54, 4 May 2009 (UTC) Not all baton twirlers are majorettes. Majorettes have a different manner of twirling than competitive baton twirlers. They use a lot more poses and twirl for the sake of entertainment. They also twirl as part of a group. Competitive baton twirlers have several types of routines ranging from basic march, strut, modeling, solo, 2 baton, 3 baton, show routine, and flag baton. Basic march is a military style march in a box to the beat of "Stars and Stripes" with one arm swinging and the other on the hip. Strut is done in a "X" pattern to the beat of "Stars and Stripes" and focuses on dance moves coordinated with the baton. Modeling is completed in a "T" pattern and focusing of grace, balance and smoothness. Solo is a routine the emphasized speed, difficulty, balance and consistent flow of the baton. The article also neglects to mention National Baton Twirling Association's (NBTA) nationals "AYOP" America's Youth on Parade (50 yr old annual event), Twirling Unlimited, and USTA. It also neglects to mention that girls participate in Basic Skills Pageant, Beginner Pageant, Intermediate Pageant and numerous types of Advanced Pageants. These events combine strut, modeling/interviews, and solo. Advanced twirlers compete with a show routine rather than a strut routine. Competitive twirlers tend to be more advanced at a younger age, with children as young as 6 doing 2 turns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barcadic (talk • contribs) 04:25, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Indigence?
"Baton twirling takes a lot of indigence."?? Indigence is defined by Webster as, "a level of poverty in which real hardship and deprivation are suffered and comforts of life are wholly lacking" It's also used in the medical setting to refer to people who cannot pay their bills. Is this bizarre vandalism or does somebody have some vocabulary problems? Maybe they meant diligence? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.115.1.46 (talk) 13:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Why Vandalize Baton Twirling?
I mean seriously, how much more innocuous can you get? Somebody actually took the time to log in and write about poo and pee in the baton twirling section. Lord. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LoboMom (talk • contribs) 01:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

Baton twirling ie everyone's life it the best ever  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.248.44.129 (talk) 21:55, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

How does one twirl a baton?
Ok, so a little bit about who's won the various competitions and where baton twirling is practiced. . . how does one twirl a baton? How is a basic twirl performed? Banaticus 07:07, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that the guys who run Wikipedia have clearly agreed that it is NOT an instructional resource. Minimal information about the nature of the twirling motion could be included, but I personally feel that it is unnecessary. 216.36.7.39 22:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC) In order to describe basic twirling, you would have to agree what basic twirling is. I've seen head majorettes who didn't know the simple tricks (elbow roll, double hand roll) my sister is learning at 5 years old. Maybe the inconsistency in the level of twirling should be discussed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barcadic (talk • contribs) 04:45, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

I am a baton twirler and I can't explain how it's done. You would have to talk to an instructor about that. I mean, it's just something I do. I enjoy doing it. to become good, start young. — Little Frog — Preceding unsigned comment added by Little Frog (talk • contribs) 17:02, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Olympics Bound?
There appears to be competitive baton twirling in many different countries. Has baton twirling ever tried to become an Olympic sport? --Grape F (talk) 18:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Really? Is this necessary?
"Baton twirling is said to be the most complex and difficult sport on Earth." By whom? Weasely weasely. 209.34.194.100 (talk) 16:53, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Rhythmic gymnastics
Is is stated in the introduction that there are similarities between R.G. and T. However, it remains undiscussed, what distinguishes the two sports. Apparently there are more disciplines in R.G., but is this the sole difference? If not, in how far does twirling differ from the corresponding discipline in R.G? 88.152.14.217 (talk) 11:02, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Bias and lack of citations
I would advise that creators of this article look at creating a Wiki page for the development of baton in the US as there is a lot of information about baton in the US, but not as a world wide sport. I have begun pulling information from the major world bodies web pages to give accurate information about the sport.

While I can appreciate peoples passion for the sport, informing people properly is essential for growing the sport. Tahutton (talk) 01:23, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

The history section is full of weasel words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.202.182.106 (talk) 20:48, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Notable Twirlers - NEEDS PROOF
There are a lot of notable twirlers - especially US twirlers - listed. However, there is very little proof they are "notable." Considering that Japan is really the dominant country in baton, somehow I think we are missing the boat! I think proof needs to be cited as to why they are notable (multiple champion, multiple world participant, invented something...) Tahutton (talk) 14:46, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

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Last Update
It looks to me like this article was written in 2009 and hasn't been updated a whole lot since then. In the last paragraph of the 'Competitive Baton Twirling' section, the article states that the International Cup and World Championships "...will begin running separately...". Any objections about changing the verb tense of the word 'begin' to past the past tense? Since ya know...it's 2018 now. I'd also like to add some of the more recent winners into the "Winners By Year" section, if I can figure it out. I'm a No0b to Wikipedia. Any objections there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ndlocke (talk • contribs) 06:06, 20 September 2018 (UTC)