Talk:Beating retreat

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I would dispute the premise of this article. Beating the Retreat seems to be a British ceremony which is performed by not only India but also by England and Australia. It can probably be found in the military of any Commonwealth country. I'm not saying that the facts are incorrect, simply that the topic is far broader than is presented here and it seems incorrect to have this page documenting only the Indian use. --Lod 02:43, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree. But this particular event is perhaps the most important and publicised event of all of them. --Deepak|वार्ता 07:13, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we could add sections which talks about such a ceremony in other parts of the world. We have seperate topics for Changing of guards at London, Edinburgh Military Tatoo etc. A change of the title is also an okay move. 203.91.193.5 06:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)Qmsarge203.91.193.5 06:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Beating Retreat or Beating The Retreat I can confirm is a British Military Parade as well, and I think this article should be expanded to include that. The B.R. parade in London on Horse Guards Parade, is normally run for two days, once a year and the Salute is taken by a member of the Royal Family. 23rd April 2006
 * I would not necessarily agree that the Indian version is the most important of them all - and even if it were, the other Commonwealth countries should still be mentioned. Campdavid 18:29, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * At the very least the name of the article should be changed to Beating Retreat Ceremony in India. I think Deepak Gupta is incorrect in saying that the Indian version is the most important one. I would guess that the most important and elaborate event must indeed be the Mother version, the British one. Before posting articles or stating opinions emphatically, it would be a good idea to do some research. SK June 24 2006.
 * I feel the page has been edited well. It now just mentions that Beating Retreat is a Military ceremony, and below that the Indian ceremony has been explained. It would be nice if UK and/or any other commonwealth nation put down their versions too.

I have edited the article now such that the British version appears at the top, but other versions are mentioned in the same detail as before under sub-titles of their own country. This approach seemed best fitting as the tradition is a British one, which is still a very public event in the UK, and as the oldest should take precidence in the article. Others have been left in the order that they were added by other users. The Picture used in the article at present is of British Guards on the Mall, and again, this is justified by the fact that the general info on the parade is under the British section. Philip.t.day (talk) 16:06, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

After further editing, there are more images and the British Section is much more large. Other commetns on this talk page may now be out of date. Philip.t.day (talk) 18:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Form of the ceremony
The article doesn't actually describe what goes on in the ceremony. Also, a bit more on its historical origins wrt the rest of Europe (day's end ceremonies are by no means unique to the UK) could be useful. Grosser Zapfenstreich and so on are all essentially the same with a few pieces of music, some kind of formal signal and/or hymn part etc., i.e. it is nothing more than a form of tattoo (though you'll need sources :D) 118.90.35.155 (talk) 13:18, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

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