Talk:Benjamin Carpenter

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1. Benjamin Carpenter-512 was born on 17 May 1725 in Swansea, Bristol, Massachusetts, USA. He died on 29 Mar 1804 in Guilford, Windham, Vermont, USA. He is Number 657 on page 125 of the book called: "A Genealogical History of the Rehoboth Branch of the Carpenter Family in America" better known as the "Carpenter Memorial" by Amos B. Carpenter, published in 1898. His Family is on page 242 (# 250). There are extensive notes on pages 125 to 128 inclusive in the Carpenter Memorial. This includes pictures.

SEE: Article on Benjamin at: http://www.pa-roots.org/data/read.php?3281,8066891

MISC: Submitted by John L. Carpenter of NH. " John L. Carpenter"  ---> now at: Johnlsaywhat@aol.com Notes for BENJAMIN CARPENTER: Without any formal education he took a prominent part in the Organization of VT; he helped form its laws, was a Lt. Governor, served several years as Censor, held the office of Lt. Col in the Revolutionary War, was a deacon in the Baptist Church and sometimes preached Gospel. A founder of the first constitution and government of the state of Vermont.First Lt. Gov. State of Vermont 1779. He died a strong minded and stature above six feet tall and of 200 pounds in weight at age 78 yrs., 10 months, and 12 days old at the time of his death, March 29, 1804. He was a self taught man he never had any formal education.. He was a LT Col in the Rev. War. A party of New Yorkers once attempted to arrest Lt. Gov. Carpenter under one Major Shepardson. But it failed, probably seeing his stature they probably didn't think they would be able to handle him. A second attempt was made to arrest him by the NY Militia, but it was a repeated failure. A company of Torries and New Yorkers had been formed for this purpose. SOURCES: 1) VERMONT HISTORICAL GAZETTEER--vol 5 ,The Towns of Windam County. Collated by Abby Maria Hemenway, 1891. 2) THE CARPENTER MEMORIAL by Amos B. Carpenter--1898 pgs 125-128. Official Name is: A Genealogical History of the Rehoboth Branch of the Carpenter Family in America, (1898). 3) Offical History of Guilford, VT ( 1678 - 1961), Broad Brook Grange #151 pub 1961 Guilford, VT.

From:  To:  Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:01 AM Subject: Re: Benjamin Carpenter of Guilford, Vermont The following is excerpted from Abby Maria Hemenway, ed., _Vermont Historical Gazetteer, Volume V, The Towns of Windham County_, pt. 3 (Brandon, Vt., 1891), 3-80, at 8, online at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtwindha/vt_gazetteer-guilford.htm_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtwindha/vt_gazetteer-guilford.htm). 3 Dec 2019 Descendants of Benjamin Carpenter-512 Page 3 The Hon. Benjamin CARPENTER, was a member of the first convention in Vermont, held at Dorset in 1770. In those trying times with the brave sons of the Green Mountains, when they had not only to oppose the powerful state of New York, the claims of New Hampshire and Massachusetts, the tories and Yorkers at home, and the menacing threats of Congress abroad: but the power of his Majesty's legions in war, that brave patriot with an allowance of three days' provisions upon his back, would cross the Green Mountains on foot by marked trees, to attend the legislature at Bennington, for the purpose of devising ways and means of defense against all the enemies of the state. As delegate to the Assembly, as a member of the Council of Safety, as Lieut. Governor of the State, he deservedly holds a conspicuous place in the early history of the state. Upon a large white marble tombstone in the west part of Guilford, is the following inscription: ... [Three others listed first.] Sacred to the memory of the Hon. Benjamine CARPENTER, Esq. Born in Rehoboth, Mass. A.D. 1726 A magistrate in Rhode Island in 1764. A public teacher of righteousness An able--eble advocate to his last for Democracy And the equal rights of a man. Removed to this town A.D. 1770, Was a field officer in the Revolutionary War. A founder of the first constitution and government of Vermont. A councilor of censors in A.D. 1794. A member of the council, and Lieut. Governor of the state in A.D. 1779. A firm professor of Christianity in the Baptist church 50 years. Left this world and 146 persons of lineal posterity. March 29, 1804 Aged 78 years, 10 months and 12 days with a strong Mind and a full faith of a more Glorious state hereafter. Stature about six feet--weight 200 Death had no terror.

While Rehoboth vital records fail to list a Benjamin Carpenter born in the mid 1820s, someone of that name was born at adjacent Swansea on 17 May 1725, which fits perfectly with the Guilford man's age at death. The son of Edward5 (Benjamin4, Joseph3, William2-1) and Elizabeth (Wilson) Carpenter, he married at Providence, R.I., 13 October 1745, Amey/Anne Carpenter (both of  3 Dec 2019 Descendants of Benjamin Carpenter-512 Page 4 Rehoboth); the births of their first four children are recorded at Warren, R.I. Gene Z. In a message dated 11/18/2004 9:17:58 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, CARPENTER-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: I came across a Benjamin CARPENTER who was the Representative from Guilford (along with John Barney) at the 4 Jun 1777 Convention at Windsor, VT created to a form a state government. Who is this Benjamin CARPENTER? Parents? Siblings? My source is page 273 of the following: Peter Blood Main Author: Vermont. Office of Secretary of State. Title: A list of the principal civil officers of Vermont from 1777 to 1918 : being a revision and enlargement of "Deming's Vermont officers." / edited by John Comstock under the direction of the secretary of state. Published: St. Albans, Vt., St. Albans messenger co., publishers, 1918. Description: 411 p. 23 cm.

SEE ALSO: Benjamin Carpenter The Whigs, united with those opposed to the claims of the State of New York, that and the succeeding year, out-voted the Tories and the Yorkers. In 1776 the town voted to pay the expenses of Benjamin CARPENTER, their delegate to the Westminster convention, in 1775. In his early life he seems to have been of a roving disposition, for his ten children were born in five different towns of Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Connecticut. He removed to Guilford with John BARNEY and others, from Rehoboth, in 1770, six years after the town was granted to the original proprietors, where he became an ardent patriot and one of the foremost advocates of separate State sovereignty for Vermont. Aside from the offices mentioned in his epitaph, he was also one of the council of thirteen appointed to revise the State constitution, in 1785. He was descended from the patriarch, William CARPENTER, who came from the South of England in the little ship Bevis in 1638, with his wife and four sons. It is interesting to observe that Richard DUMMER, an ancestor, probably, of the DUMMER for whom Dummerston and Fort Dummer were named, was a passenger by the same ship. Settling first in Weymouth, Mass., the CARPENTER family removed to Rehoboth with the first settlers of that town, in 1643. Joseph CARPENTER, one of the four sons born in England, and great-grandfather of Benjamin C., became a constituent member of the Baptist church in Swanzey, the oldest church of that order in Massachusetts, in 1669. The late Senator Matt. CARPENTER, of Wisconsin, and the late Hon. Abbott LAWRENCE, of Boston, were among his numerous posterity. Cyrus, the youngest of Benjamin CARPENTER's ten children, was born in Killingly, Conn., in 1769, and was 3 Dec 2019 Descendants of Benjamin Carpenter-512 Page 5 brought as an infant by his parents to Guilford, where he spent the remainder of his life. He was a hardworking farmer and a much respected member of the Baptist church. He reared thirteen children, all of whom lived to have families of their own. His first wife, Betsey BARNEY, was the mother of four sons and six daughters, all of whom made their homes in other States. The fourth son, Mark, however, spent the later years of his life in his native county, serving the Baptist churches in Brattleboro, West Dummerston and South Windham successively, as pastor. He died at his residence in Townshend in 1882, at the age of eighty, leaving five sons scattered in various parts of the world. Cyrus's second wife, Betsey PUTNAM, was the mother of two sons and one daughter.

The eldest of these three children, Edwin B., resided in the old homestead in Guilford for some years after his father's death. He was early engaged in the manufacture of reed organs in Brattleboro, and is still engaged in the same business in Mendota, Ill., while his eldest son Edwin P., has recently established a factory of the same kind in Brattleboro, right under the shadow of the successful and powerful firm of ESTEY & Co. He will doubtless do everything that pluck, energy, and fair dealing can do to build up his native town and at the same time achieve an honorable success. Cyrus CARPENTER came to this town from Rhode Island when but seven years old and worked around among the farmers. After a few years he started a wheelwright shop at Guilford village, and carried on that business for many years. He was deputy sheriff several years and high sheriff one term; also constable and collector for eighteen years. He married a daughter of Artemas GALE of this town, and had two sons and two daughters, but one of whom, Augusta, wife of J. T. NOYES, is living in the town. He died in September, 1863, aged sixty-three years.

Gazetteer and Business Directory of Windham County, Vt., 1724-1884. Compiled and Published By Hamilton Child, Printed At The Journal Office, Syracuse, N. Y., July, 1884. Page 194-216 Transcribed by Karima Allison ~2004

Charles B. & E. J. CARPENTER's saw-mill, located on road 39, was originally built by Jedediah ASHCRAFT about 1800. It turns out about 12,000 feet of lumber and 15,000 shingles per day.

In 1772 there were 586 souls in the town, their names and the number in their families being as follows: NAME Number OF CHILDREN Benjamin CARPENTER 5 Nathaniel CARPENTER 8 Benjamin Carpenter was 1st Lt Governor of VT.

HOUSE: His 1772 house sold on 11-13-2019 for $788,000 It has 4 bedrooms, 3 baths for a total 3,338 sqft on an about 264 acre lot. See images at: https://www.estately.com/listings/info/1472-carpenter-hill

Benjamin married (MRIN:370) Annie or Amie or Amy Carpenter-513 daughter of Abial or Abiel Carpenter-930 and Prudence-931 (MRIN:372) on 2 Oct 1745 in Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, USA. Annie was born on 26 Nov 1725 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts, USA. She died on 1 Jul 1803 in Guilford, Windham, Vermont, USA. See Number 839 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 144. They were married in Providence, RI and resided in Guilford, VT. Benjamin and Annie had the following children: 2 M i. Asaph Carpenter-516 was born on 2 Jul 1746 in Warren, Bristol, Rhode Island, USA. He died in Hudson, Columbia, New York, USA. 3 M ii. Joseph Carpenter-520 was born on 24 Feb 1749 in Warren, Bristol, Rhode Island, USA. He died in May 1829 in Ira, Rutland, Vermont, USA. Number 1681 on page 242 in the Carpenter Memorial. His family is listed as number 554. 4 F iii. Lucinda Carpenter-524 was born on 6 Mar 1751 in Warren, Bristol, Rhode Island, USA. She died after 1794. Death date clearly afterJan 1980. Lucinda married (1-MRIN:381) Stephen Chase-523 son of Stephen Chase-6746 and Katherine Lund-7501 (MRIN:382). Stephen was born on 21 Apr 1755 in Nottingham West, now, Hudson, Hillsborough, New Hampshire, USA. He died in 1793. Lucinda married (2-MRIN:383) "Judge" Wheeler-6187 after 1793. "Judge" was born about 1750. 5 F iv. Lois Carpenter-526 was born on 8 Sep 1753 in Warren, Bristol, Rhode Island, USA. She married JOHN SLATER1. He was born Abt. 1753, and died Abt. 1814 in Jay, NY. 6 M v. John Carpenter-514 was born on 2 Dec 1758 in Warren, Bristol, Rhode Island, USA. He died on 25 Oct 1759 in Warren, Bristol, Rhode Island, USA. 7 F vi. Lydia Carpenter-528 was born on 6 Oct 1760 in Warren, Bristol, Rhode Island, USA. 8 F vii. Amy Carpenter-515 was born on 1 Sep 1763 in Warren, Bristol, Rhode Island, USA. She died on 6 Oct 1786. 9 F viii. Rhoda Carpenter-530 was born on 1 May 1765 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Rhode Island, USA. Rhoda married (MRIN:387) Samuel Nichols-529. Samuel was born about 1765 in Halifax,, Vermont, USA. 10 M ix. Dr. John Benjamin Carpenter-531 was born on 8 Jun 1766 in Scituate, Providence, Rhode Island, USA. He died on 6 Dec 1831 in Henderson, Jefferson, New York, USA. He was buried in Carpenter Cemetery,, Jefferson, New York, USA. He is Number 1688 in the CM. Family is number 555. 11 M x. Cyrus Carpenter-533 was born on 12 Sep 1769 in Killingly, Providence, Rhode Island, USA. He died on 9 Dec 1840 in Guilford, Windham, Vermont, USA. He was buried in 1840 in Carpenter Cemetery, Guilford, Windham, Vermont, USA. He is Number 1689 on page 243 in the CARPENTER MEMORIAL. A Farmer. Born in Killingly, CT per book. His family is #556. 12 F xi. Eunice Carpenter-511 was born about 1771 in Killingly, Providence, Rhode Island, USA. Eunice married (MRIN:369) Amos Gore-510. Amos was born about 1771.

COMMENT: These are genealogical notes. And notes for the children have been removed. This information was left because I do not have the time or energy to fight the current crop of demigod and bully editors on Wikipedia. Benjamin Carpenter's house recently was sold in Guilford, VT. See HOUSE: above. The house could have its own article. Several descendants of Caleb Carpenter, brother of this Benjamin Carpenter, through their father Edward S.Carpenter C#535 have been Y-DNA tested. This through the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project. See: https://carpentercousins.com/generallineage.htm#reho - scroll right - subject line 4 - look for C#535. This is a tiny part of the "Carpenter Cousins Project." See: https://carpentercousins.com Jrcrin001 (talk) 17:14, 3 December 2019 (UTC)