Talk:Beth Van Duyne

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 * Beth Van Duyne Former Mayor of Irving,TX.jpg

Pre-emptively changing Beth Van Duyne to a victory
* (Copied over from my talk page; the conversation began on User:CharlesShirley’s user talk page) Symmachus Auxiliarus (talk) 16:25, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

You preemptively changed the article to say she had won, before any reliable sources have made that claim. The single source you used likewise does not say she had won the seat, and seemed to carefully avoid making that claim. Yet you substantially changed the article to say she was the victor, and she was the new congresswoman for her district. Without any supporting sources, and the race as yet being uncalled. Why? Symmachus Auxiliarus (talk) 05:44, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This discussion should have been placed on the talk page for Beth Van Duyne only, not on my talk page. And why I made the edits I did? She won the election.  She has declared victory, just like Biden has.  So there is support for her victory. Also, she won by a good margin.  You have not provided any evidence that Van Duyne has not declared victory. None. Zip. Nada.  --  CharlesShirley (talk) 15:36, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , we go with what reliable sources say. Not the pronouncements of candidates themselves. The line you’re trying to draw to Biden is one of false equivalency. Reliable sources have universally called the election for Biden, and reported his win. That you think the self-declaration of a candidate reported in one partisan web outlet of dubious reliability is sufficient for declaring something in Wikipedia’s voice, when the publication even goes to lengths not to call it, is worrisome. As in your somewhat aggressive attitude in my asking about what are clearly not just questionable, but honestly, bad edits. I was trying to be diplomatic before. I’m sorry, but this easily fails WP:VERIFICATION and WP:NPOV. And I asked on your user page as a courtesy, but I’ll copy this over to the article, as well, if you wish. Symmachus Auxiliarus (talk) 16:25, 9 November 2020 (UTC)