Talk:Bicep curl

Picture

 * The bitch in the picture doesnt fit, I recomend you change it to some dude from a fitness magizine or at lease a chick. User:66.8.154.92 03:09, 8 July 2006

It seems to me that the woman in the picture isnt a professional, or a (even somewhat) desent looking face. I would recommend pictures of Arnold Schwarzenegger or a fitness video woman. I simply wish she would stop apearing on this site. User:Ebuver 21:02, 10 February 2007
 * Stuff it, you git. She's pretty. Ultra Megatron 22:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: on 06:44, 15 June 2007 this topic was removed by User:JoeSmack. I have restored it. Have also restored a comment on this by an IP address who removed it later, using a strikethrough to acknowledge they have self-censored. Dictabeard (talk) 13:42, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Natal issues
Where would I find sources for prenatal and postnatal issues with doing bicep curls? So far www.sactots.com is the only link that has shown any demonstrations with resistance bands. User:66.60.172.82 00:09, 24 July 2007

Proposing move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: not moved. Dabomb87 (talk) 05:06, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Biceps curl → Elbow curl —
 * I think we should move this page to elbow curl or something of that nature. Clearly the scope of this article has gone above and beyond, outside of movements meant to isolate the biceps. It includes movements meant to isolate other elbow flexor muscles such as the brachialis and brachioradialis via methods such as preacher curls and curling via hammer grip or prone forearm. Would anyone be averse to this?
 * Especially since "bicep curl" could technically also refer to a knee curl via the use of the biceps femoris. A biceps curl is a subset of elbow curls, therefore since this article already more broadly addresses this, we could reconstruct it to be more specific. Dictabeard (talk) 13:42, 21 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose - All exercise books, manuals, and magazines, both amateur and professional, call this exercise the biceps curl. No sources I've ever seen call it an "elbow curl".  Curls involving the biceps of the leg are called "leg curls". --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:48, 23 March 2011 (UTC)


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World record
Is there any such thing as a "world record" for biceps curl? I ask simply out of curiosity. Maybe it should be added if there is....I'd like to compare it to my own puny best (65KG in my prime, using the board (AKA preacher bench) in the seated position....not too shabby...right?.....). If you can find it within yourself to bypass the flipancy of what I've just written (to the serious point I'm trying to make), I think it may be a valid point to give some consideration to what is considered a "good" biceps curl by international standards...there seems to be no mention of this in the article. 82.5.68.95 (talk) 00:08, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Try looking in Guinness World Records. Also I think there are some powerlifting federations that have Biceps curling contests, though finding reliable sources for records for these is difficult.--Yankees 76 Talk 12:36, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * While showy and popular, the biceps is a relatively small muscle; its exercises typically are not included in strength competitions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree, however when searching for records, I found videos of powerlifting type contests with guys curling. It seems weird, but I guess there's a organization or "world championships" for practically any fringe sport in existence. Problem is finding reliable sources that keep track of such events and records. --Yankees 76 Talk 17:28, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Cut section

 * Decline bicep curls are possible as well, and are usually performed with a preacher bench along with dumbbells, a straight bar, or a curved bar ("EZ bar"). With the elbows flat against the bench, and the chest pressed close to the preacher bench, one performs a traditional curl motion with the weights, focusing on stressing the biceps.
 * The incline and decline biceps exercises' effectiveness lie in gravity. Additional gravitational push is applied to the weight when performing the exercises at diagonal angles, increasing the stress on the biceps and therefore increasing the results from the exercises when performed correctly. (Citation needed|date=March 2011)

I cut out this part, because it legibly is very vague, and not written properly, and uncited. If there's something of value here, let's clean it up properly. This 'decline curl' (seems like a term that could apply to many things) is difficult to visualize, and I don't think should be restored until we can find either a picture or a reference which can properly explain what it is.

The second part is a bunch of nonsense that doesn't convey a proper understanding of physics. Firstly, gravity is a pulling force, not pushing. Secondly, there is not 'additional' gravity when performing 'diagonal' exercises (whatever that means).

What I think this is attempting to get at is the difference in terms of leverage demands on the elbow flexors when the forearm is at different angles relative to the earth. The most disadvantageous leverage is when the forearm is parallel with the ground, making it perpendicular to the pull of gravity. So whatever portion of a movement has this forearm angle, has the greatest leverage demand:
 * With the standing 'elbows fixed at side' barbell curl which has a vertical upper arm, this occurs at 90 degrees of elbow flexion.
 * With a 'drag curl' where the shoulder joint hyperextends (a semi-rowing motion) and the elbow moves behind the shoulder joint instead of staying under it, this paralell forearm occurs near the peak of maximal elbow flexion, say ~135degrees.
 * With a 'preacher curl' where the shoulder joint is flexed, and the elbow is in front of the shoulder and stabilized on a pad, this parallel forearm happens in a more stretched-out position, say perhaps ~45 degrees depending on the angle of the pad.

What these do is change what portion of the movement receives the greatest leverage demands. That aspect itself does not change whether the biceps or other elbow flexors have greater demands on them, but simply the portion of the movement in which they do.

Of course there are other portions of those movements which do accept the biceps. Preacher curls' pre-flexion of the shoulder shortens the biceps, and Drag curls' extension of the shoulder joint means a longer biceps at peak flexion. As to what a shorter or longer muscle at various portions of the movement does in terms of hitting it or ignoring it in favour of its synergist, is a matter I'll leave up to scientists. Y12J (talk) 10:10, 26 January 2012 (UTC)