Talk:Big Chuck and Lil' John

Laugh
The laugh sound file provided omits the first "ha-ha." I have also noticed that there are two versions, the second adding a group of people laughing about three seconds in. This laugh must be over 40 years old, since the show in the last few years replayed verbatim a movie broadcast by Ghoulardi, complete with his MST3K-style commentary, which included the famous laugh. Mapsax 21:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Last shows
For the record, this is the series that was run at the end, all dates Sundays:


 * June 17, 2007: Last show taping, in Chuck's den (movie: Highwaymen)
 * June 24, 2007: Last show taping, repeated (movie: Switching Channels)
 * July 1, 2007: "Big Chuck and Lil' John: The End of an Era" repeat (movie: Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery)

Presumedly, the same series happened in the Saturday time slot the respective day before.

Mapsax 23:29, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Possible Items to Be Added
Amazingly, the sketches and parodies section currently does not include The Kielbasi Kid (sp.?)! Someone should rectify this. Other classic sketches and parodies -- especially recurring ones -- also should probably be added, perhaps with more specific examples of individual sketches, so that readers unfamiliar with the show will nonetheless be able to gain some sense of why people thought this stuff was funny and remember it fondly so many years and even decades later.

Also, although I do not remember in which episode this happened, there was an episode of The Simpsons in which Bart plays a video game in which the announcer or his opponent or someone says something about having to "face the wrath of Chuck Schodowski." The page for Big Chuck and Lil' John should have an "Influence" or "References in Popular Culture" (or whatever) section -- just like, e.g., the page for Ghoulardi does -- and items such as this reference on The Simpsons should be included.

(Ah, I see now that the episode was "The Regina Monologues,"

http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/The_Regina_Monologues

the video game was called "Hockey Dads," it was the drunken wrath of Chuck Schodowski, and said wrath was to be felt, not faced.)

Finally, once the page is larger and more complete, The Houlihan and Big Chuck Show and The Big Chuck and Lil' John Show should have separate sections. Combining the two shows into a single Wikipedia entry makes sense, but right now the original incarnation of the show -- which evidently lasted for some 13 years! -- kind-of receives short shrift. And if possible, a bit more should be said about how the show grew out of Ghoulardi, with Chuck Schodowski starting out as both a cameraman for Ghoulardi and the butt of many of his jokes, and with Houlihan and Big Chuck even showing some of Ghoulardi's old sketches. For example, the classic black-and-white sketch with a very young Chuck Schodowski on a barge on Lake Erie raking muck: Houlihan and Big Chuck showed this one many times, but I believe it was originally shot for and shown on Ghoulardi. And didn't Parma Place -- which is listed on the Big Chuck and Lil' John page under "Some sketches and parodies" -- start out as a Ghoulardi series? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.193.192.45 (talk) 17:46, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Subject: Hosts or Show?
With the exception of the lead, this article is written ambiguously. It's not clear whether its subject is a pair of co-hosts (Big Chuck and Lil' John), or the show they hosted (The Big Chuck and Lil' John Show). Since the co-hosts are primarily notable for the show itself, I propose moving the article to The Big Chuck and Lil' John Show. Individual articles for each co-host could then be created if/when necessary. Levdr1 (talk) 19:25, 14 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Most people referred to the show as simply "Big Chuck and Lil' John". Even the station called BC & LJ in most promos. Very rarely did they (either the station or common viewers) use "The" at the start and "Show" at the end. It was mostly "Tune into Big Chuck & Lil' John!" or "Did you see Big Chuck and Lil' John last night?"  So I'd just leave the title as is.  Vjmlhds 20:11, 14 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Concur. The article appears to refer to the duo, who were most famous for the show. Neither is notable enough separate of the other for its own article. I'm rewording the opening paragraph to make that a little more clear. J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 21:28, 14 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your input. Since the two of you apparently prefer to keep the co-hosts as this article's subject (rather than the show), I'm adding the parameter |italic_title=no to the infobox.  Levdr1 (talk) 01:20, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Hoolihan and Big Chuck
I see from the previous entry that this article is really supposed to be about the two hosts rather than the show. If so, that explains why there is not more discussion of the Hoolihan and Big Chuck show, which ran for 13 years before Big Chuck and Lil' John got started, and also was the show which developed or first aired many of the skits that were later used on Big Chuck and Lil' John. I note that Bob "Hoolihan" Wells also has his own article, which makes sense as he was notable for several other things besides co-hosting Hoolihan and Big Chuck (presenting the weather, being a Christian broadcaster, acting).

However, it still seems a little weird that there is not more discussion of Hoolihan and Big Chuck show given how many years it was on and the fact that it really established the popularity and fan base for Big Chuck and Lil' John to go another couple decades after Hoolihan left. People especially outside Cleveland don't really seem to get that there was a long running show before Big Chuck and Lil' John and after Ghoulardi. TheBlinkster (talk) 19:33, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

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Still being made?
Just before the switch earlier this year to 12:30am, WJW started running older post-2011 shows. This leads me to believe that new shows are no longer being produced but I can't find any information about this. Mapsax (talk) 02:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)


 * [Update] This is OR, but since the above, there have only been Best Of episodes and all that I've seen have had a 2021 copyright date so I assume it's a vestigial show at this point. Mapsax (talk) 22:36, 3 April 2023 (UTC)