Talk:Big Hole

Article substantially vandalised; much of the information unreliable
Apart from patently wrong information in the current version (20 July 2022), it is clear, after viewing the history of the article, that there are individuals deliberately vandalising the text in ways inconsistent with the spirit of Wikipedia. Blarcrean (talk) 05:11, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Biggest?
Is this really the biggest? Possibly the deepest open hole dug, but Mirny seems pretty bloomin' massive as well. Beerathon 13:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


 * No, it is reportedly the largest excavated by hand. I would assume that Mirny, having been in operation from the 1950s to recently would have been excavated using machinery. Booshank 02:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Mirny is probably not hand-excavated. Anyway, the distances claimed confuse me. In the Big Hole article, it says it's 765 m deep, but the third reference says it's 720 *feet*, yet the Jagersfontain article says it's the deepest with a mere 660 feet. I'm..at a loss. Anyone knows any actual facts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Egregius (talk • contribs) 02:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Stats were changed in November by an anon IP (82.175.67.122). I've reverted to the original figures as cited in the reference. --DeLarge (talk) 14:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Merger
I suggest this article be merged into Kimberley, Northern Cape as I don't see any merit in having a separate article for this particular sub-section of Kimberley's history.  Socrates2008 ( Talk )   07:34, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak oppose: the Big Hole is a famous old mine (and tourist attraction), so it seems worthwhile to keep this article. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 02:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I also oppose, more strongly. I've reverted, and put a hatnote at the top of this article to the more comprehensive dab page now at Big Hole (disambiguation). --DeLarge (talk) 17:48, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Before the last vote, there was 1 vote for and 1 weak oppose, so I went ahead with the merge. If folks are so strongly opposed, it would have been helpful to respond to the request for discussion that was placed on both articles. In any event, I'm not going to pursue this further, except to re-add the info that was deleted from the Kimberley article, as its integral to the bigger picture of the history of the city.   Socrates2008 ( Talk )   05:59, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

(belated reply...) I did not participate because this page was not on my watchlist at the time, and I only noticed after you edited a wikilink post-merge. It would have been helpful to research the move/merge before proposing it, as any move would have been seen to be a bad idea and would have negated the need for a discussion.

For the record, the number one Google hit for "Big Hole" is to this mine's official page (even ahead of its WP page). It gets 8x more traffic than the second most popular page at Big Hole (disambiguation) (and 2.5x more than all the other articles on the dab page combined). It has interwiki links to articles on seven non-English Wikipedias, while no other alternative has more than one, and most have none. All these demonstrate the much greater, more global notability of the mine, and hence why it should receive primacy. --DeLarge (talk) 15:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

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