Talk:Bilingualism in Hong Kong

New Article
I made this article, what do you think? Citikiwi 05:33, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation
Well done, Citiwiki. I only have one issue. While you were in the midst of creating it I changed two links, one to Great Britain and one to "Britain." The problem with the link to "Great Britain" is that that article is about an island, not a country, nation or sovereign state. In this case, UK is the better link. "Britain," on the other hand, is a disambiguation page. Wikilinks are not supposed to go to disambiguation pages, they're supposed to link to relevant articles. UK (which redirects to United Kingdom) is once again the relevant article. Since you reverted those edits the first time I performed them, I'm leaving this note to clarify my actions. --Steven J. Anderson 16:15, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

stats
Statistics? +Hexagon1 (t) 11:23, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * That would help, if anyone could find stats on numbers of English speakers and Britons in Hongkong would make a better article. I think about 35% of Hongkongers can speak English and there's about 200000 Britons in Hong Kong but I'm not too sure. Frozen-Coke-Rocks (talk) 01:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Don' know if it's too late, but here's something: http://www.censtatd.gov.hk/major_projects/2001_population_census/main_tables/population_aged_5_and_over_by_usual_language_1991/index.jsp

Mandarin in Hong Kong
Why is there no info on Mandarin in Hong Kong - knowledge, usage? Taking into account so many immigrants (legal and illegal) from the North and the growing demand for Mandarin, I am curious to get this info. Macao article states about 3.5% speak Mandarin at home in Macao. Is there any statistics for HK? If the article already exists, please let me know. Is Mandarin #3 after Cantonese and English? I checked some other articles about languages in Hong Kong. Everything seems to be based on assumptions, like 99% of the population are fluent in Cantonese. Can this be true with non-Chinese immigrants? A reliable source on other languages would also be useful - first language, second language.--Atitarev (talk) 23:36, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposal
The page Code-switching in Hong Kong is currently about 4 kb, and Bilingualism in Hong Kong is about 6 kb. Size alone is not sufficient to support splitting the topics. In addition, Bilingualism in Hong Kong currently contains a section on Code-switching in Hong Kong. The latter page contains only a lead section and one short subsection. I submit that it would easily fit into the former page. Cnilep (talk) 00:47, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Doesn't seem like they should be merged. Code-switching does not necessarily be conducted between English and Chinese. Yes, they're not mutually exclusive, but their inclusion is somewhat vague. OhanaUnitedTalk page 20:33, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * When you say, "Code-switching does not necessarily be conducted between English and Chinese," do you mean the practice of code-switching generally, or code-switching in Hong Kong in particular? If you mean the latter, please note this from the opening paragraph of that page: "Code-switching, or the practice of using more than one language in conversation, is very common in Hong Kong. It usually involves a mix of Cantonese and English as a result of the bilingualism in Hong Kong." Cnilep (talk) 21:19, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I support the merge of the two articles in question. They both have to do with languages in Hong Kong. But Code-switching in Hong Kong needs to have more citations and needs to be wikified. -- Jack l  10:57, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It usually, which means there are cases of exception. Then where would you put it otherwise? OhanaUnitedTalk page 17:17, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

(Outdent) I'm not sure that I understand the rationale for OhanaUnited's objections. Both pages discuss language in Hong Kong in general terms. Both focus on Cantonese-English bilingualism, since that is the most common pattern. Neither says that those are the only languages used in Hong Kong. Am I correct in understanding that the objection is that Code-switching in Hong Kong contains insufficient discussion of languages other than Cantonese and English? Cnilep (talk) 18:51, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I am against the merge. These are completely different things. Code switching can even go tri-lingual. Benjwong (talk) 01:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose: completely different concepts. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 10:21, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

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