Talk:Birdemic: Shock and Terror

Article Takes Birdemic Too Seriously
It seems to me this entry is fundamentally flawed in that it misinterprets "Birdemic" as a movie that was intended as a genuine and serious "romantic thriller" rather than as a spoof of sorts. It was intentionally, consciously made bad, more in the vein of "Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes" than "Night Of The Lepus" or an Ed Wood movie. The makers of the film didn't set out in earnest to make a sincere "romantic thriller", the whole point was to make a horrible movie that was SO bad it would be hysterical to watch. In taking the movie as a project intended seriously which just happened to turn out "so bad it's good" the article mischaracterizes the film in a significant way. Something should be added to the artticle indicating this rather obvious aspect of the movie, otherwise the article is misleading.CannotFindAName (talk) 11:53, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I disagree completely. Every source I've found indicates that Nguyen, the film's director, set out to make what he terms "a romantic thriller". At least a few sources have noted that one of the reason the film gained any notoriety at all was because it was a sincere attempt to make something good that didn't quite pan out for Nguyen. The movie was designed to be scary, even if it doesn't come off that way to you or many other viewers. It was certainly not made as a parody or with the intention of being comedic. Bob Amnertiopsis ∴ChatMe! 17:29, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Bob is right. If you have a source that states the movie was a spoof, please add it.  On a side note, I fear the sequel may try to capitalize on the farcical reception of the first and be an "intentionally bad" film like Tomatoes or Thankskilling - which are not as good in my opinion. Hoof Hearted (talk) 14:23, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

In terms of films that are considered to be especially bad, please be aware that director statements can vary quite drastically, making it very difficult to specify if a film was 'intended' to be comical or not. Tommy Wiseau has stated that he intended The Room to be a comedy, but there is little if anything to indicate that this was his intention, so please let's keep the description of Birdemic sincere unless there's enough information that can be accurately dated to pre-production to indicate otherwise? Justin.Parallax (talk) 12:11, 7 September 2013 (UTC)


 * It seems that every bad and unsuccesful movie is suddenly "a cult movie", a term that was originally ment Citizen Kane-kind of movies. I agree that the article treats this movie as some sort of groundbreaking experimental film with lots of underground followers, which is far from the truth. --Dereck Camacho (talk) 04:08, 26 August 2014 (UTC)


 * A cult film is defined by the passion of the audience rather than the size of it. Since the NY Times and The Guardian say it achieves "cult status", that's all we need.  Did you have any specific examples of peacock terms used in the article?  Hoof Hearted (talk) 20:39, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Alan Bagh and Whitney Moore
I'm thinking of nominating those two for deletion. They are really not notable other than having been in this movie. I thought I'd start by asking what others think here. So, what do you think? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:26, 16 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't see why not. James Nguyen doesn't have an article for the same reason. If Bagh and Moore wind up in other films, we can reconsider giving them their own pages. PerryPlanet (talk) 20:15, 17 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the feedback. Please see:
 * Articles for deletion/Whitney Moore
 * Articles for deletion/Alan Bagh


 * Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:00, 17 May 2014 (UTC)


 * You all didn't even bother looking in IMDB? Whitney Moore has done many movies, and is adding more all the time.  She's an active, professional actor.  I don't know why you would have deleted anything without checking her background and other work.  98.194.39.86 (talk) 01:23, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

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