Talk:Birth rape

This
This article is based on an opinion of a single incident and does not quote any expert. It should be deleted or merged with some other article 0police (talk) 21:54, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

"Birth rape happens when a doctor, nurse, or midwife tells the woman that they have to preform an intervention that requires either vaginal instruments or hands and the woman declines but they preform the intervention either way."

I personally would love to find a way to make deliveries the safest way possible without resorting to using our hands or instruments, however, that is not the case. Hands and instrumentation are used to secure the well being of the baby and the mother at the time of labor. They give better visibility, and more control to the attending physician and the staff helping with the child birth. To compared an episiotomy; which is sometimes needed to avoid anal tears and needs to be performed just before the delivery in some occasions; to rape is just preposterous.

Heaven forbid that the doctor does nothing and the child or the mother dies because of that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.56.2.109 (talk • contribs)

improving
There are now some citations, but the body text needs to be rewritten for a less strident tone — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.11.185.116 (talk) 01:47, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Janet Fraser- originator of the term "birth rape"
Just wanted to provide a quote from Janet Fraser, who I believe was the origin of the phrase. "My birthrape with my first child is traumatic. My stillbirth was not." An inquest was conducted into the death of her baby, which she suggested was not valid because she asserted that the baby was not born alive. When it was pointed out that she herself had sought a live birth certificate, she replied that she only did so to get a "baby bonus" payment from the government.137.111.13.167 (talk) 05:07, 29 June 2012 (UTC) I need to point out that the Coroner's report into the death of Roisin Fraser, Janet Fraser's third child, has been published The Coroner summarizes the incident that Fraser refers to as "birthrape" and more traumatic than the death of her third child. In that birth, Fraser planned a home birth attended by a registered midwife. After some time, Fraser requested transfer to a maternity unit for epidural pain relief. This was arranged and the epidural inserted. Fraser then requested a caesarean section and maintained this request in spite of medical advice that it was not necessary, and advice regarding risks of caesarean delivery. The caesarean was performed and Fraser gave birth to a healthy baby. Fraser has publicly continued to refer to this incident as her "birthrape" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew Pesce (talk • contribs) 02:29, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Why
Why does this article even exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.250.247.165 (talk) 13:27, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm, I notice the creator of this page has been blocked, and was found to be a sock-puppet.137.111.13.167 (talk) 05:53, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Agree the subject of this article does not meet Wikipedia standards for notability as a stand-alone article, based on the available sourcing. One or (maybe) two sentences from the article should be merged into Unassisted childbirth with redirect.  All the sourcing ties back to back to one individual, Amity Reed, and her personal advocacy of her views on the subject.  The only half-decent source is the Salon article, and even the title of the article--"The push to recognize 'birth rape'"--indicates that the notability of the subject is not established well enough for a stand-alone Wikipedia article.   17:12, 16 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Please see discussion of possible deletion of this article. -- Scray (talk) 15:04, 20 October 2012 (UTC)