Talk:Bone grafting

Untitled
This was rather poorly written; I can't really even understand what it says, so I'm just taking it out:
 * Perhaps the most common use of bone grafting is in the use of dental implants. These require a quantity of bone for support and to successfully osseointegrate. Where there is insufficient bone, for example where a patient has been edentulous (without teeth) for a prolonged period bone may be taken from the chin or from the pilot holes for the implants or even from the illiac crest of the pelvis to provide the necessary quantity of bone.

~ Booyabazooka 20:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Synthetic variants
This section is completely misleading. Glasses and ceramics are not biologically inactive. Ceramics like calcium sulphate and tricalcium phosphate are completely resorbable and hydroxyapatite and Bioglass are surface active. They all stimulate new bone growth, are osteoconductive, osteoinductive and osseointegrate well. A biologically inactive ceramic would be alumina which is totally inert and would not be used as a bone graft. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.179.6.181 (talk) 15:33, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Some advice =)
I am really bored and pretty much done with editing on my own article.... so I guess I will help you!

First, WP:MEDMOS is going to be your best friend here! Second, your article outline should look something like the following:

(taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDMOS#Medical_specialties)


 * Scope including typical diseases/medical conditions; include any important sub-specialties
 * History development of field, including notable founders
 * Investigations investigations, diagnostics, and related techniques used in specialty
 * Treatments
 * Research
 * Ethical and medicolegal issues any ethical issues that are specific to this field
 * See also (avoid if possible, use wikilinks in the main article)
 * References
 * Further reading (paper resources such as books, not websites)
 * External links (avoid if possible)

Also, you are going to want to add the infobox bone to the top of your page. I can help you with this when I get more time. If you feel like taking a look, here is the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Bone

I'll come back and help sometime this weekend - I have more or less figured out how to put things like that infobox in. I will leave the information part up to you, but I don't mind helping with general outline/format. Peace yo FoodPuma (talk) 01:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

More advice
Good medical journal articles on an overview of your topic can be found here |1. Also, check out this |2 (it provides the code for in-line citations... all you have to do is use the PMID # or URL address). Its kinda hard to describe, so if you need help then ask, but otherwise check out Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_AP_Biology_2008 and read his directions.

Ah... marine science is the worst.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by FoodPuma (talk • contribs) 17:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Noticed what you've done here in a random search on google. According to your project page, it seems you might need help. Well, a quick search of google for "bone graft" produced | this. I picked out a couple of sites that might interest you in building the base of this article, specifically: |2; |3; and |4.


 * You may want to stay away from articles like this | one unless you can take information that they have clearly cited. Otherwise, you may be called on verifiability and NPOV. In the case of the Colgate article, it does not reference any sources and is not a credible source. (it is, after all, a corporation with possible bias based on promotion of it's products and the like) Conversely, this is a credible source that could be of great value.


 * Look for medical journals (such as those your classmate suggested and linked) or websites with .org or .gov. These tend to be more reliable and accepted within the wikipedia community. While their language may be a little lofty for us simpletons, GA and FA articles - especially those on medical conditions/treatments - require the technical terms presented in these sites. Make sure that you | wikilink these technical terms if possible and/or replace them if necessary. (In other words, keep the diction level down to where an average joe could open the article after a hard day's work and understand the bloody thing.)


 * CITE YOUR SOURCES AS YOU GO ALONG - I can not stress this enough. I have seen to many articles expanded upon with a plethora information, but not an inline citation to be found. Subsequently, their main editors were forced to comb their browser history hoping to find the sources of what equals a mountain of paper. Forced to suckle from the proverbial tit of society, they managed to pull the article to FA through an army of supporters willing to spend hours finding the correct sources for the information presented. In short, follow WP:CITE (and more specifically, | this should help you with those footnotes) and keep your citations up to date! Use {reflist=2} for your reference section - it will format all the citations for you in your reference list (so you don't have to manually list them yourself). If any of my babble makes sense, I hope it helps! LosIntrepidos 23:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * http://www.surgeryencyclopedia.com/A-Ce/Bone-Grafting.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Somertime02 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

--Somertime02 (talk) 20:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Graded --JimmyButler (talk) 21:38, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * --InsufficientData (talk) 05:19, 29 December 2008 (UTC) Converted manual numbering to #-numbering, for maintainability.


 * --InsufficientData (talk) 05:24, 29 December 2008 (UTC) I also stikeout sources I already added to references in the main article, to make life easier for the next person.

AP Biology Project
This article has been officially dropped from the WikiProject AP Biology 2008 is is no longer being actively edited by the student involved.--JimmyButler (talk) 18:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Cost section
The cost section needs to contain costs for all bone grafts, specifically breaking them out by procedure or donor site. Right now, it cites a reference only for lumbar (spinal) bone grafts. But there is a wide variety of bone grafts used for bony defects all over the body. I feel that extrapolating from lumbar bone grafts to all bone grafts is misleading. --InsufficientData (talk) 18:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC) I agree with this. I think that it is important to include all of the costs because it can relate back to the accessibility of each graft and how they are applied in medicine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaughnm2020 (talk • contribs) 01:00, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Dental
It seems that the haphazardness of this article will not be undone any time soon, and as such, I'm inclined to begin a specific article on bone grafting as it relates to dentistry, where the majority of factors (diagnosis of need, prognosis of treatment, scope of treatment, duration of pre-op, op and post-op procedures, expected recovery time, associated fees, related physiology (e.g. extraction socket physiology)) are indeed different. If anyone has any comments before I do so, let's have them.  DRosenbach  ( Talk 23:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Or rather, as I see that this article was created by a dentist and its focus is mainly about dental, perhaps this article should be focused on dental and moved to bone grafting (dental).  DRosenbach  ( Talk 12:26, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

The cost section gives average costs($33,860 to $37,227) that are grossly out of line for dental bone grafting, and yet under Uses, bone grafting for dental implants is given as the most common use. Some mention should be made of the much lower costs in the most common case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.37.16.52 (talk) 16:51, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Autograft
I have just added a bit about using reamed bone from the ASIS as a bone graft and included its actions. However, I have no evidence to back it up and wondered if anyone knew any. I know it is done, as I have seen it used during a subtalar fusion, but any help would be gratefully received. Astrojon (talk) 00:30, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Autogolous Osteoblast Implantation
Autogolous Osteoblast Implantation has been developed and used for at least nearly 10 years in Asia (source:) to treat non-union fractures, osteomyletis and avascular necrosis, among other bony defects. Despite this development not yet reaching the U.S. in any common fashion, it is a very relevant development in bone grafting. This may be misplaced (i.e. header: "Bone Grafting") but this is necessary addition to these sub-set of topics on bone. It may require a new heading.

Source: http://www.mendeley.com/catalog/multi-center-randomized-clinical-study-compare-effect-safety-autologous-cultured-osteoblast-ossron-i/

Hope this helps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.130.31 (talk) 10:37, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

spelling correction
"en block" should be "en bloc"

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