Talk:Born Villain

Curious...
I'm just curious if the current album cover (Manson with a large black hat) alludes to anything...it reminds me this poster: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/Gallowwalker.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.250.166.247 (talk) 22:25, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The Holy Mountain (1973 film) --151.41.163.244 (talk) 15:17, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

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Simple creed
A quote of the singer's father is given extra attention (discussed at DYK). I find the creed proclaimed there extremely simple and not relevant to the music. Or is the music that extremely simple? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

LaBeouf and artwork
None of the three sources on the page directly support that LaBeouf will have any part in this album's artwork. I believe this could be a misinterpretation of the quote, "[we] talked about what kind of visuals he wanted on his album." As a director, LaBeouf would be interested to match the theme of the record with his "making-of" documentary. For example, if Manson's eight album is really dark, a director would want to know that so he could match that vibe in his video. Fezmar9 (talk) 17:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

album name
officially called "Born Villain", so change page name... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.200.66.155 (talk) 08:28, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Ref # 31 *IMPORTANT*
We can't use youtube as a primary linked source. It doesn't matter if it is highly reliable. It needs to be reformatted to cite the interview itself, using the "cite interview" template. - User:Red_marquis — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.5.121.190 (talk) 20:28, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Then change it. Homeostasis07 (talk) 02:31, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You can't expect me to do everything. "You're not a shovel and I'm not your dirt", so to speak. You guys need to learn to clean up after yourselves and follow the rules/guidelines or Manson's articles will get nowhere. -Red marquis (talk) 12:26, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Sales
Hits daily double have estimated Born Villians first week sales to be between 30 - 40k. Here is a link: http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news08961m01 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.33.43 (talk) 15:36, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Commercial performance
Some sales info for the forthcoming commercial performance field: Homeostasis07 (talk) 01:23, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Born Villain debuted at #14 in the U.K. with first week sales of 6,933, according to Music Week
 * Debuted at #18 on the main Oricon album chart in Japan, with first week sales of 5,825, while it dropped to #20 on its second week on the chart, with second week sales of 3,817 - which is actually his best second-week performance since The Golden Age of Grotesque in the country. Both EMDM and THEOL dropped out of the top 40 by its second week, so it's a pretty noteworthy stabilisation, I think.
 * Debuted at #10 on U.S. Billboard album chart with sales of over 39,000, according to Loudwire, I'd suggest using this as the permanent source - since the Billboard website is notoriously buggy. A direct link from Billboard in the source would probably be dead by the end of the month.

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Problem with 'Critical reception' section
This section gives one the impression it was written by a diehard fan; for an album with a generally mediocre reception (59/100 on Metacritic), it is biased a bit too much towards the positive reception it has received (also, I don't know if it's standard practice to include websites like Kill Hipsters which are not very well known, at least not so early on in the section). OddWarlord (talk) 09:21, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The section is fairly split among positive and negative (two paragraphs each). It's not Wikipedia's problem if Metacritic were being lazy by only bothering to summarise 10 reviews: there were clearly a lot more reviews from major publications they could've included. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 14:57, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not so sure about the Kill Hipsters reference but just with regards to the layout and prose I have to agree with Homeostasis07: looks fairly well balanced to me with a NPOV.  Rob van  vee  17:28, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah I'd agree with that. Might be a good idea to ditch Kill Hipsters, otherwise it looks fine to me. Damien Linnane (talk) 01:23, 28 September 2019 (UTC)