Talk:Bottle cage

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"Riders had a cage there [on the handlebars] rather than have two on the frame, where the centre of gravity is lower, because at the time the Tour's rules insisted that riders carry a pump. The pump took up the length of one frame tube and made a second bottle cage on the frame impossible."


 * All of my road bike frames have had two bottle cages (one on the seat tube and one on the downtube), and they always carry a frame-mounted pump (under the top tube). I'm sceptical that Tour riders used a handlebar-mounted bottle cage because there wasn't room on their frames due to frame pumps. Anyone have a source either way? -AndrewDressel (talk) 15:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't have a source to hand, but I would point out that seat tube mounted frame pumps are comparatively recent innovation. Old school frame pumps were mounted to braze-ons on the down tube. -Dhodges (talk) 19:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Here are some interesting links:
 * An image of a 1937 Allegro Competition with handlebar mounted water bottles (cans?) and pump mounted on the seat tube, though not necessarily original.
 * An image of a 1950 Helyett Speciale with one handlebar mounted water bottle and a pump mounted behind the seat tube with what appear to be braze-on pegs.
 * An image of a 1954 Stella Louison Bobet TdF with a bottle cage clamped onto the downtube.
 * An image of a mid 1950s bike with bottles mounted on the handlebars, downtube, and what appears to be a pump mounted to the bottom of the downtube:
 * It appears to me that there is no clear cut time or reason for the switch from handlebar to frame mounted bottle cages. -AndrewDressel (talk) 20:36, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

A majority of the frame pumps I've seen (and I've seen plenty on bikes up to 50 years old, I was a professional mechanic) have mounted under the top tube on the frame. Frames sometimes even had a peg behind the head tube (and sometimes a hook-shaped peg near the rear of the top tube) specifically for holding a frame pump. The only pump I've seen that mounts along the seat tube is an aluminum Mt. Zefal pump, which was fairly common in the 70's, but certainly not the only option. There may have been a reason that riders carried bottles on the handlebar, but I don't believe that pumps were that reason. I believe this paragraph is wrong. 97.121.7.98 (talk) 07:27, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

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