Talk:Bracknell/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Initial

Which part of the government rejected the Legal and General and Allied London Properties proposal? Mr. Jones 16:08, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I believe it was deputy prime minister John Prescott. He believed that there were already too many shopping facilities in the local area (Readings' Oracle etc.). I'm not certain though, and I haven't been able to verify this so I didn't include it.

Anybody know where White Whitfield is?. The only references I can find to it by googling are clearly copies of this article. Chris j wood 01:55, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Too many links?

Do we have too many links here, eg. for the individual estates? I mean, I live here, but even I don't think Great Hollands is encyclopedia-worthy. Speaking of which, would an Easthampstead Park School article be OK to make or disregarded as too insignificant? -- Gatta

I agree! Also Hanworth links to the London suburb in the London Borough of Hounslow which could confuse. Pt1234 15:32, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't have a problem with the number of links on the Bracknell page, I've just added one more for Warfield which is where I live. Bracknell (or at least, Bracknell Forest) is a large place consisting of many small parishes. Someone from another part of the planet might need to find out more detail about Bracknell. However maybe Warfield should feature in the Windsor, Berkshire page because that's where its parliamentary constituency is now (Warfield is < 1 mile from Bracknell Town Centre, 8 miles from Windsor, go figure).--Andrew McKay 05:55, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Reference for tobacco claims

Does anybody have references or citations for this paragraph?

In 2004, research into smoking habits in Britain by the consultancy firm CACI found that, on average, Bracknell's inhabitants spent less money on cigarettes each year than people from any other area of the country. However, it is thought that it is because the residents are using so many illegal drugs such as heroin and cocaine that they simply do not get the reqouistie hit from tobacco.

--Scott Davis ^Talk 03:44, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

The illegal drugs bit has to be a troll, and should be deleted. Don't get me wrong, Bracknell isn't heaven on earth, but I don't think the logic of that paragraph is right. There are plenty of other potential reasons for the low tobacco consumption, from an equally controversial "they're all on the dole and cant afford 'baccy" to "They're well educated, and are aware of the risks of tobacco smoking". So, I think that removing the 'However, it is thought' line, and adding a citation needed bit would make sense. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.210.57.169 (talk • contribs) .

Thankyou. Bracknell is far enough from me that for all I knew, that "It is thought..." had been front page of several national newspapers. --Scott Davis ^Talk 13:22, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

St. Michael's

I reverted edits by 86.129.207.192 on Revision as of 15:39, September 26, 2006 because I could not tell if it was vandalism or inexperienced editing. First, the information on references was deleted, but this could have been by mistake. Second, if St. Michaels is a school in Bracknell, your addition should look like this: *[[St. Michaels]]. Third, the only school by that name in Bracknell that I found on the "Welcome to Bracknell" website was a nursery school. If this is the school you want to reference, your addition should look like this: *[[St. Michael's Nursery]]. The listing will be appear in red until someone (and by someone, I am suggesting you) creates an article titled St. Michael's Nursery. Cynrin 19:58, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

St Michael's is a large Church of England primary school in Easthamptead, Bracknell. A list of all the schools can be downloaded from [1]. The other schools listed though are the town's four secondary schools, and there are a total of 14 primary schools. So it is probably not logical just to list St Michael's in the primaries. There is an associated St Michaels nursery school but it probably doesn't deserve its own artice. Dsergeant 06:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC) (Bracknell resident for many years)

Bill Hill

I've added a reference to Bill Hill under the history section.

Fluffball70 22:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Arts

On the subject of Bracknell in films: The machine hall at ICL (now Fujitsu) in Lovelace Road was used in a film. At the time it was the largest computer hall in Europe, though has since been subdivided. Can anyone remember the name of the film? I though it might be Billion Dollar Brain, but this was released in 1967 and I think the site opened in 1971. No success so far in scouring the Web.Pterre 12:21, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Hospital

217.44.22.56 added a new paragraph about the lack of a local hospital in Bracknell. That is indeed true, and there have been campaigns for many years to address the issue and also the decline in services at Heatherwood hospital. However I suspect it is outside the scope of WP to have more than a brief mention, and a link to a petition on the Downing Street site is obviously outside the scope of an encyclopedia. I suggest it is deleted. Dsergeant (talk) 18:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I removed it, not only because it was obviously campaigning, but also because it was written in appalling English. I've made some other edits too, mostly for stylistic reasons, but also to add some new information and links. Hope nobody minds. --Alex Craven (talk) 02:38, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Can we do a Bracknell Restaurants Listing? There are so few of quality

There seem to be only 3 or 4 places in Bracknell (Thai Hut/Hideaway, Koh I Noor in Priestwood, So Co Lo at the train station for lunch, Maybe Yorkshire Rose and Don Beni's) to eat that stand above average. Does this go beyond Wikipedia goals? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.195.151 (talk) 17:24, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

General comment

Considering that there are over 115000 people living in the Bracknell Forest Borough, this is a very mediocre article indeed. It makes no mention of the town's history as a brick making centre (immediately prior to its incorporation as a new town), and is fundamentally incorrect on the naming of streets in its neighbourhoods (for example - Great Hollands streets run up to "Y" and not "D" as stated). There are a host of further inconsistencies in this articleJerry6525 (talk) 22:50, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Well actually it does mention the Thomas Lawrence brickworks. You are more than welcome to fix the other things yourself.. Pterre (talk) 09:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Come vs. Cum

The use of the Latin preposition cum to mean "together with; plus" is often used in combination; for example, "our attic-cum-studio". This example taken from The Free Dictionary. Because of this, I have restored that edit, which I made when not logged in and which someone unfamiliar with the construction reverted. Doonhamer (talk) 20:11, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Clock fountain

Found this April 2009 news article from the local paper while checking what to call the clock fountain.

Bracknell Forest Standard "Calling time on water feature in town?"

It might be of use in the article...? -- EdJogg (talk) 12:28, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Maybe. Not sure about that article you link to - the redevelopment of the town centre has gone very quiet and many suspect it has been postponed indefinitely because of the economic situation. So for the moment the 'clock' fountain remains. Most of us just walk past it with no more than a casual glance, usually noticing the workmen there trying to get it working, you very rarely see any fountains of water. But I guess it is a 'feature' of the town.Dsergeant (talk) 16:57, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Neutrality

Still lacks the citations and there is not NPOV in the lead paragraph. Simply south (talk) 12:53, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

In the past few days this article has received many vandalism edits and it is now in a mess. Hopefully this will stop soon, but as far as I can see we need to revert right back to my edit on 19th May and get rid of all the senseless rubbish. Dsergeant (talk) 17:05, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I think my edit (just now) can indicate a stable reference point for comparisons. I could not see any remaining vandalism from recent edits. Longer-term neutrality issues are another matter. -- EdJogg (talk) 12:24, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, that looks fine. Don't know how long it will last before the vandals reappear.Dsergeant (talk) 16:58, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Mobility Scooters

I see a comment 'Bracknell has a higher ratio of mobility scooters than any other UK town centre' has just been added. I have no information to dispute this, however I have never been aware of that many scooters myself when in the town centre - although there is a mobility scooter hire shop. Residents elsewhere in town certainly use them, but I rarely see more than one or two a day. If nobody comes up with a reference in a few days I shall delete it. Dsergeant (talk) 17:13, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm inclined to think this probably isn't true, and if it is then it probably isn't verifiable. Googling mobility scooter Bracknell gives me nothing but adverts and some local governement stuff about accessibility, and Google News Archive has even less. My thoughts would be to remove it until it can be verified. Alzarian16 (talk) 19:05, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

This article does attract a lot of spurious comments, but I thought this one might have a grain of truth (hence the fact tag rather than straight delete). It may be no more than another mischievous edit, in which case Dsergeant's intentions are correct. However, I can understand why someone might add this: walking from work to the town centre along Crowthorne Road North (over the old railway bridge) and past the bus station and there are numerous people using these scooters -- I've even seen them near-racing down there! Of course, this really shouldn't stay in the article for long, as such 'facts' have a habit of spreading... -- EdJogg (talk) 08:48, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Must walk along that bit at different times to you, never seen any racing scooters myself - maybe they are hurrying to catch a bus?... Dsergeant (talk) 16:39, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

OK, having thought about this I have decided to delete it. On my 1 mile walk up to town today I saw one scooter in the town centre and a couple more on the way. Hardly evidence that there is 'more than average' here. Dsergeant (talk) 16:54, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Lead Photograph

The lead photo of Charles Square and the water fountain is no more, just a pile of rubble inside hoardings. Options currently are very limited - banking court, High Street with Bentalls, or Princess Square are literally all that is left if you restrict it to 'town centre'. I will look at what is available on Geographia - what we have must last until the new town opens in late 2017. Dsergeant (talk) 06:22, 27 August 2015 (UTC) OK, the only appropriate one on geograph.org.uk is a fairly recent one of the Post Office and is likely to remain largely unchanged during the development. I have added that - unless anybody can find a better one we will leave it as that. Dsergeant (talk) 10:41, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Well I spoke too soon - the post office is to be demolished at the end of the year to be converted to blocks of flats, with the post office itself relocating to within WH Smith http://www.bracknellnews.co.uk/news/13778050.Bracknell_High_Street_post_office_forced_to_move_to_make_way_for_luxury_apartments/ Dsergeant (talk) 16:36, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

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