Talk:Bride

Because
Because there are no references anywhere to "Bride" as a reference to Brigid, I am taking this off the list of disambiguation pages. The second meaning is adequately captured as a footnote.

Bride drawing
Look, I'm new here and I don't want to stir up anything, but I'm questioning the inclusion of that chibi illustration of a bride on this page. It's cute, I agree. It's very nicely drawn. It's also the third picture on an article that is three (short) paragraphs long. It's making the page display funny for me and I'm running 1024x768. Also, it's not GFDL on a page that already has two very nice GFDL images.

I also don't feel that it's appropriate for an encyclopedia. Yes, Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia, but it's still an encyclopedia, and I don't expect to crack open the Encyclopedia Britannica and see chibi drawings. Engravings and illustrations, yes, but not a cartoonlike representation such as this illustration.

I've gone ahead and commented it out. Please feel free to chide me if you feel I have removed it inappropriately. (janeway216 02:15, 23 March 2006 (UTC))


 * Chide you? When I could instead strew (?) rose-petals in your path for a few minutes, at least? fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 11:14, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Too many pictures, not enough content?
There seems to be way too many pictures on this article, and not enough content. The reference to Brigid is taken out, as well. Im sure you only need 1 or two pictures. Disinclination 07:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree. The largest adds least information: veil and white color are in the first picture, no flowers, I'll hide it here (check "edit", let's see how people feel. --FlammingoHey 21:41, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I just saw that the same pic had been hidden before, so we may have to talk about this maybe?? --FlammingoHey 21:45, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * As it was suggested that we need photos that disseminate more information regarding the topic, I have done such. --Mactographer 10:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps what is needed is. . . well, more content. There could be a section about the Bride in literature, the bride in history, brides in different cultures, etc, just to name a few. Wrad 08:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I just added a gallery. Hopefully this will stifle poor picture placement and addition. Wrad 08:32, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I dislike the gallery - it's huge with fairly low variety (the vast majority are very same-ish). We have Commons to provide a pig vault of images.  We ought to be choosing the most appropriate ones to illustrate this article and providing a simple link to the rest.  The gallery isn't really any better than when we simply ha too many photos.  -- Siobhan Hansa 01:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I think it's better than the way the article was, people just kept adding pictures everywhere, disrupting the text and making the page look awful, now at least they're all corralled together. Maybe we should just take out same-ish ones and leave variety ones. Wrad 01:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I just took several out. I honestly think this is fine, at least for now. I've seen several other article with similar galleries (eg. Lois Lane) Wrad 01:31, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I think this one is more aesthetically pleasing than what has been left up top. But then I'm biased.  And I'm not fond of the gallery either. --Mactographer 08:50, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:White-wedding-dress.jpg|100px|thumb|left|Bride in full dress with [[nosegay|bouquet]].]]

Well, an opposition seems to be building, so I'll just present a full argument for keeping them, and then we can do whatever is decided. Basically, no matter what we do with pictures on this page, it will still be pretty lame, until it gets more content. I think that the gallery is poor, but is the best option we have available. Removing it makes it western-world-centric. It also leaves the article wide open for people who want to post their latest wedding picture and mess up the format, or who argue that only a certain race is presented. I added the gallery as a response to someone who added a wedding picture of a young black woman, saying, "Why not have a black bride?" (take a look at the page history). In my mind, this was a legitimate concern, so I scoured wikipedia for good, diverse bride pictures.

All in all though, the real way to improve this article is not to delete or change pictures, it's to add content. When we have content, we will have more room for pictures. Either way, though, I think galleries will only become more valuable as the article develops, given the nature of the article. Pictures say a lot more about bridal customs than any article could. If we do decide to remove them, I ask that they be commented out, rather than deleted, so that we have them to look back on whenever we want to add another picture. Many of the pictures in the article are very notable, high-quality, and/or have been nominated as featured pictures. Wrad 22:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Not Queen Victoria's wedding dress
This 1854 portrait of Victoria and Albert in court dress in 1854 after a Drawing Room never stops cropping up as some kind of "wedding photo" or "recreated wedding photo." I've altered the caption to reflect that there is no basis for this. Victoria did wear white to her wedding: she wore court dress. Court dress is white, with a veil, and with feathers and sometimes flowers in the hair. But this photo is completely unrelated to wedding or bridal dress. There are many images of Victoria in her wedding dress. She was painted by Winterhalter wearing it more than once (there are several copies on Commons), and her dress has been exhibited several times so there are modern photographs of the dress itself. But if you add an image of Victoria in her wedding dress, you'll probably want to leave the 1854 court dress photo in place with explanation too; otherwise, someone will just add it again later claiming it's her wedding dress. Laura1822 (talk) 05:05, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Etymology?
Currently, the Etymology section states:

The word, possibly, comes from the Old English 'bryd', which in turn is derived from the Proto-Germanic verb root *brū-, meaning 'to cook, brew, or make a broth,' which was the role of the daughter-in-law in primitive families.

I can't seem to back this up - perhaps it was once in the cited source, but it now redirects to a page that doesn't mention Proto-Germanic at all. Etymonline seems to me to suggest that the link with cooking is theoretical at best. Personally I'm not confident enough with etymologies to update the article myself, but I'm pretty sure this shouldn't be saying that bride possibly comes from 'bryd' and implying 'bryd' definitely comes from *brū-.

twotwos ( talk ) 04:31, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

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