Talk:Bridgewater-Raritan High School

Comments from 2005-2006
What's under construction? --Chroniclev 23:12, 4 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I've created and edited a boatload of NJ high school pages and now they're all getting ths under construction template. I wish there were some more details explanation other than the boilerplate template. Alansohn 23:28, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Very well written about BRHS, Thanks! You might get some more info from the school's main office. Good luck! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.192.201.169 (talk) 18:56, 24 July 2006

Recent revert
I reverted an edit which added true but unencyclopedic content. The reverted edit made two changes: It added a news item which doesn't have long-term encyclopedic value. The second added less-important career information about an alumnus. Even though the edits were well-sourced, the added encyclopedic value was at or near zero, so I removed them as WP:NOTNEWS and WP:TRIVIA. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  04:43, 13 December 2009 (UTC) Late correction, made after some of the comments below: "but encyclopedic" -> "but unencyclopedic" - sorry for any confusion this caused. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  22:06, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Let's be clear about what you're deleting.
 * 2009 thwarted attack
 * - On December 11, 2009, a Bridgewater-Raritan student and a student from nearby Immaculata High School were arrested in connection with a "Columbine-like" plan to attack the school. The plan involved homemade bombs and shotguns.
 * - * Scott Schwartz (born 1968), Actor from "The Toy", "A Christmas Story", and pornographic films


 * It sure looks like your real concern is in whitewashing the page, not making sure that "encyclopedic" information is all that winds up on it. Some random suburban high school is a lot more noteworthy -- and will be remembered a lot longer -- for being the site of an attempted mass murder than for, oh, the fact that it offers "Introduction to Culinary Arts", or the record of its volleyball team (facts which, I take it, you do feel are encyclopedic, since you left them in place when you removed the others). 75.43.134.83 (talk) 05:16, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think the information about the planned attack belongs in the article. It is a short-term news story.  It would be different if an attack had actually occurred, but fortunately it did not.  I am not removing it myself at this point, because this has already turned into a "revert war" and I don't want to get involved in it.  Hopefully others will discuss the matter on this page so there can be an attempt at consensus. At the very least, I think this material should either be moved further down in the article, or the heading should be removed so it is part of another section, or both. Neutron (talk) 21:23, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I honestly believe this is not encyclopedic. It belongs/belonged on WikiNews, not here.  Given its currency as news and the reversions, I won't revert for a few weeks at least.  However, if I remember to, I will take it out early next year. If I forget, I hope someone else does the honors.  Of course, by next year if it has become encyclopedic then it should stay in for good. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  22:04, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * If Mr. Schwartz's contribution to the adult film industry are as notable as his contribution to the major films listed, then my removal should be reverted. If they were a minor part of his career and if his impact on the industry was minor, then it should stick.  For what its worth, until a few minutes ago, the reference to adult entertainment in his wiki-bio was unreferenced and therefore a BLP violation.  I referenced it.  For the record, I did not delete him from this article, I only edited out the adult film work. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  22:12, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

I have now removed the heading, so the material on the incident is just a paragraph in the "History and symbols" section. I still believe this material should probably be removed, but I think this is a reasonable temporary solution while that discussion takes place. Neutron (talk) 16:27, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

what the hell? he's entirely right, it's absurd to say the attack isn't encyclopedic but the drivel currently on the page is. 99.32.205.51 (talk) 16:37, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Assessment comments
''These have been moved here from a subpage as part of a cleanup process. See Discontinuation of comments subpages.''

I have assessed this article as C-class and identified the following areas for improvement:  shirulashem     (talk)   02:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The article needs inline citations

Terms used in School
Why does this section always get deleted?

''At the high school, there is a well known use of the term "Glenn Fisher," referring to the current senior at the school, Executive Producer of BRTV. This term is used as a compliment, as in "you're so Glenn Fisher." While this term is not well known outside the school, within the school it is commonly used as a compliment.''

I am NOT Glenn Fisher. I am writing this for Glenn Fisher, who is the Executive Producer of the school wide broadcasts. This is a commonly used term around the school, and fits right into the section titled "History and Symbols." As it is a symbol at the school, I believe that the section would be appropriate in the section.

I would like to open discussion to this, as whenever I put the edit in, it is always removed. I'm not interested in an edit war, just trying to make the article better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.167.229 (talk) 03:09, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Additional Citations
The Orchestra and Band sections have simply no citations.

The extracurricular section has one citation which is for one specific club, and the rest is not cited.

I think the other sections are good, but due to the fact that the problems existed in both the music and extracurricular clubs sections, I opted to put the template on the entire article rather than those two sections.

If any other editors will think duplicating the template for the two sections would look better, I'd be okay with that.

Sahilm (talk) 00:43, 2 March 2013 (UTC)


 * These issues still don't seem to have been addressed, so I've (re?)added the "refimprove" tag. --V2Blast (talk) 19:50, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Two years later, there are still next to no citations for the extracurricular or music sections; I'm beginning to suspect that that information may have been added by students of the school, which would explain that issue. As such, I've added the original-research template to them both. In addition, I wonder if much of the information in the extracurricular section (or the section itself) should be removed entirely; most of that information doesn't seem like it'd be relevant to anyone but BRHS students. Pop pa munz  (talk) 16:42, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

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Reason for multiple issues template
Today I removed the original-research section templates from the two sections I've previously talked about here, and added the multiple-issues template to the top of the article. Here are a few of the reasons behind them: In addition to this, I plan to find additional citations and clean up the article as much as I can myself. Pop pa munz (talk) 01:14, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Refimprove: The history & symbols section is spotty at best, and the music & extracurricular sections only have one citation each.
 * Original research: As I originally stated, it seems to me that much of the information in the article (especially the aforementioned sections) was probably written by students of the school.
 * Overly detailed (in extracurricular section): I had originally added that issue to the multiple issues template, but I moved it to the extracurricular section because I felt it would make more sense there. Much of the content in that section (e.g. BRTV's various programs, most of the clubs mentioned) isn't relevant to people who don't go to the school anyway.

Suggested reference/link possibility?
Suggest reference and link to Discogs page for "Christmas in the Stars" Meco/Star Wars/Jon Bon Jovi 1980 holiday album. Backing vocals credits include:

Ron Marshall and the Bridgewater Raritan High School West Advanced Choir

--Schultz.kevin1972 (talk) 20:25, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Meco - "Christmas In The Stars (Star Wars Christmas Album)" Discogs
 * Discogs entry for Ron Marshall and the Bridgewater Raritan High School West Advanced Choir