Talk:British Rail Class 221

Contradiction
"Four car unit, but was built as five, the fifth coach was written off following a severe engine fire at Starcross on 8 December 2005 [1]. This coach is now being repaired." (my emphasis). The two sentences clearly contradict each other - which is correct? Thryduulf 21:18, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Link to Bombardier
It would help to have a link to Bombardier, Inc. on this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier

Tony 20:47, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Some Table items such as max speed, weight, capacity (pax, bicyles) engine power, ect. if not commercial in confidence how much does each train set cost?

Problems with Convert template results?
Is it just me, or is there a problem with the convert results in the infobox?

I am seeing:

"Car length 23.85 m ( in) driving end cars 22.82 m ( in) other cars

Width 2.73 m ( in) "

Similarly on the British Rail Class 220 page, I am seeing:

"Width 2.73 m ( in) "

I can't spot any recent changes to these pages, or to the convert template page, which might have caused this. What's the problem?

David Biddulph (talk) 10:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Someone sorted out the class 220 page by adding an extra term 0| in the call to the convert template. I'm not sure why this problem has just occurred, but this seems to be the solution.  David Biddulph (talk) 08:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Tch.
Not a one of them called Captain Kathryn Janeway, even though they had to give the last one of the series a naff corporate name? For shame :D 77.102.101.220 (talk) 20:55, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Commons images
Hi. Just to let you know, the Commons category for Class 221s is now completely sorted by operator and livery. -mattbuck (Talk) 14:30, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Possible change to the title of this article
This article is currently named in accordance the WikiProject UK Railways naming conventions for British rolling stock allocated a TOPS number. A proposal to change this convention and/or its scope is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways, where your comments would be welcome.

cross country tilt disabled?
I thought I had read somewhere that the Class 221s now being operated by CrossCountry had had their tilt mechanism disabled, in order to improve reliability, since tilt isn't relevant to the routes they use. But there seems to be no mention of this in the article. Has anybody got info about this? -- Alarics (talk) 20:57, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Yup, I remember reading that too, and I eventually found it hidden away at Bombardier Voyager family. I also note that it is unreferenced, so you may wish to read it somewhere else as well, before adding it here where it belongs (if true). Tim PF (talk) 23:32, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Alarics (talk) 10:03, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

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