Talk:Bulbul

Bulbul does not originate from Arabic, but Farsi... I am not Iranian by the way and by no way would like to diss the value of the Arabic language. Xommana (talk) 14:51, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Citation confusion
I removed the citation demand for "The word bulbul derives from بلبل, meaning nightingale, but in English, bulbul refers to passerine birds of a different family." The family (Pycnonotidae) is given, and it is not the same as the nightingale family (Turdidae last time I looked), so that is OK. The Arabic origin has a citation in support, so that does not justify a citation request. What is possibly a problem is that Xommana states that the origin is Farsi. FAIK that might be so, but it does not follow that the Farsi and Arabic roots or origins are independent, and as I know neither language, I cannot argue that question. It might be that one or the other is wrong, and that either the cited source does not support the claim as stated, or that the source itself simply is wrong, but such a situation would demand a correction, not a citation. So if anyone knows what the situation is, please supply the proper information (properly cited of course). JonRichfield (talk) 19:15, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * What seems doubtful, and afaics isn't supported by any citations here, is the claim that the Hindi / Persian / Arabic word refers to the nightingale (Luscinia) and not the birds that we call bulbuls in English (Pycnonotidae). Bear in mind that the range of Pycnonotidae overlaps with those languages far more than Luscinia does. The article on the common nightingale mentions that the nightingale is "a conventional cultural substitution for the Persian bulbul", so it's easy to see how a misunderstanding could arise that bulbul actually means nightingale. Are you sure that's not what has happened here? HairyDan (talk) 20:48, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

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Cock
The bird known for sharing its name with a penis is cock, in English; or bulbul, in Hebrew. הראש (talk) 14:57, 28 June 2019 (UTC)