Talk:Business analysis

Syntax problem
The link to 'Requirements Analysis' doesn't work, but there is a page called 'Requirements Analysis' - is this a syntax problem? Rsjw 22:46, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Merge proposal
The Business analyst article is redundant with this one, which creates a lot of repeated information. It's less useful to the reader to have information on one topic spread across two articles like this. I propose that Business analyst be merged into this article. &mdash; Saxifrage ✎ 01:38, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Supported--Boson 20:21, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

In principle I agree with the merge; most of the content from the Business Analyst page refers to the role and function of a systems analyst.--Kenneba1 14:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree, having accepted a position recently as a business analyst, the two could be merged to reduce duplication. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Konkord (talk • contribs).

I "some what" disagree, should farmer and farm have the same definitions? A farmer (Business Analyst) is the person who farms. They can farm specifically or generally. A farm (Business Analysis) is it's own paradigm each farm can be different in it's definition as a Fish Farm is to a Horse Farm. A Business Analyst should be defined as it is in the context of what a Business Analyst does (uses a method of Business Analysis to gather data useful for a business). Whereas Business Analysis should define and disseminate those various methods. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.110.134.20 (talk • contribs).


 * Of course that would be a good argument if the comparison could be demonstrated to be valid. As it stands, the articles are merely talking about the same thing from two different perspectives, so the comparison to farms and farmers doesn't hold up. &mdash; Saxifrage ✎ 23:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I also believe that they should remain separate. I agree with the comment that business analysis should focus on the methods used to define requirements, whereas Business Analyst should focus on the responsibilities of a business analyst. Business analysis should provide additional information that is just brushed over in business analyst. If the issue is just redundant information, then maybe we need to look at editing some of the content on the existing pages. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.213.22.209 (talk • contribs).

I agree with the above arguments that they are different. I think there should be a very explicit reference to business analysis from Business Analyst and vice versa Sagar kv ✎ 02:04, 30 November 2006

I'm against a merge of this two articles - even if there's redundant information. I don't like too long aticles. There is simply a difference between beeing a business anaylst and what business analysis should be. I fear this difference could get lost when this two articles get merged. - from germany m. 87.78.117.90 16:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I am also against merging these two topics as they both are different. One is the person, noun and another is the Task. --Ksalokranjan 10:49, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Merge - I don't think there is enough verifiable information to have two articles at this time. By definition, the two topics are almost identical. Business analysis is the work done by a business analyst. A business analyst's work is business analysis. Where's the need for two articles? Of course, the problem is that neither article has even the beginnings of minimal verfication. --Ronz 16:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Merge as well. They're the same thing, worded in two different ways. Radagast83 05:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Merge I agree they are redundant, but I would merge business analysis with business analyst and not the other way around. I much prefer to see things listed by job title. Schatzi 01:23, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Remain seperate but keep and create more inboud links. they're needs to be some more synthesis here. It is clear that the role of business analyst is to carry out business anlysis and so a description of the role and the interdiscpinary skills and tasks carried out within that role are implicitly linked> It gets more complicated though. I spent ten years in industry as IS business analyst working at both a strategic architect level observing roles cultural norms and values analysing data and processes while focusing on how to improve aspects of organisation using systems based approaches and methodologies such as SSM and SSADM in the analysis of existing and creation of new systems. Then I would lead the development (project leader) and implemntation with the support of a development team an the staff. I would even get inolved with training staff so I guess what I am trying to say is Business anslysts can be very broad in their remit OR. You also get IT specific and functional specific (e.g. financial or marketing) or even segment specific business anlysts who have a more specific focus. Also their reporting business anlysts who's concetration is purely information analysis using reporting or Business Intelligence applications such as cognos, and crystal reports etc. So the role and the functions of business analyst can be extrmely mulitfaceted and varied or very specific. I think that users of Wikipedia need to find this infroamtion in a number of different ways by job title and by function, tasks, roles etc Rally were all different people and we all have different perpectives. Hope that helps Rsjw 22:46, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

No way it should be merged into the other, as both are separate and serve different purpose although are related. Nehal Vora —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.103.25.98 (talk • contribs).

Don't Merge No one would consider merging Architect with Architecture. Business Analyst and Business Analysis have a similar relationship. In my experience (as senior business analyst in a large insurance firm), business analysts don't do that much business analysis themselves. Rather they facilitate business analysis by other executives within the business. Marq au 00:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't Merge Please dont merge the contents. Even though both of them have some kind of similarities there are certainly many contrasting differences like the one specified earlier. Any business can do their own business analysis but only a practised analyst could provide a professional approach and give a solution from a vision view point. ≈≈≈≈≈≈ Elamurugu Manickam ≈≈≈≈≈ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.17.14.245 (talk • contribs).

The information is redundant; changes require updates to 2 pages and will likely get out of sync. Lynn3003 14:54, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't Merge Business Analysis and Business Analyst even though they sound and look similar are very different. Not every Business Analyst performs all that is considered Business Analysis and vice versa. I am a Business Analyst and agree with the colleague above that no one would think of merging Architect and Architecture. May I suggest a quick look in the BABOK (Business Analysis Body of Knowledge Book) available for download on the IIBA (International Institute of Business Analysis) website www.iiba.org. The difference is clearly described, also you'll see that there are other positions not only the Business Analyst that are performing Business Analysis.Vneit2 18:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't Merge As the rest have said, one is a role the other is a process, coming from a BA. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.177.14.194 (talk • contribs).

It is obvious to have some duplication of information between a role of a Business Analyst and the function Business Analysis. One of the important roles of a Business Analyst is to perform Business Analysis apart from other tasks like verification, etc. These other tasks cannot be a part of Business Analysis task.

So Business Analysis is only a subset of tasks performed by a Business Analyst in today’s (IT) industry needs. Merging will not provide the Business Analyst information in its entirety as per today’s industry standards. It is not a good idea to merge the two. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.246.73.90 (talk • contribs).

Don't Merge per above comment. However someone has pasted the Business analyst content into the business analysis article so someone needs to roll back the content or write a new article. If you are interested see the busines analyst wikia here —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.106.106.71 (talk • contribs).

Please, don't merge - I agree with the previous comments "one is a roll the other is a methodology". The separation is common, see Financial Analyst <-> Financial Analysis. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.89.116.2 (talk • contribs).

Don't Merge. I think the two sections are completely different, and there needs to be a seperate page for the role of the Business Anaylst. I often have issues of people misunderstanding roles and responsiblities in general, and this is a great reference. I like the comment above about how this is similar to the difference between a Farm and a Farmer. Dan 16:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

DO NOT MERGE - business analyst is a role in a company, business analysis is a technique. Business Analysts DO NOT always purely do business analysis, their roles can encompass a great deal more than just that one item. Does a resume contain a single bullet? NO - business analysis may be a single bullet on a resume. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.34.37.51 (talk • contribs).

DO NOT MERGE - business analyst is a role in a company, business analysis is a technique. Business Analysts DO NOT always purely do business analysis, their roles can encompass a great deal more than just that one item. Does a resume contain a single bullet? NO - business analysis may be a single bullet on a resume. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.34.37.51 (talk • contribs).

Please DO NOT MERGE. As stated by the current definition "responsible for analyzing the business needs of their clients and stakeholders to help identify business problems and propose solutions, using the discipline of business analysis", this is COMPLETELY different from a Business System Analyst who documents requirements from and End-User and acts as a liaison between the end-user and developer. RRR of a SOCAL e-commerce. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.94.141.210 (talk • contribs).

Don't merge, who made this nonsensical proposal? 57.77.8.130 05:24, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree there are many similarities between the two, but the main difference in why I believe they should not be merged is that one is a position/task, and the other is a methodology/process. Hence I believe they should not be merged (69.91.87.154 13:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)).

business analysis is nothing but analysing the business,how it is run. the out come of this analysis helps in designing strategies, where as business analyst is the one who does this analysis and finds out the ways of improving the business so they should not be merged as one is a role and is specific. another is a related to business as a whole.so i think it shouldn't be merged. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.93.90.71 (talk • contribs).

Please do not merge. I agree with the previous comments that this does not make sense. 58.168.158.170 05:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Don't merge as these are different, one is a roll the other is a methodology —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.38.3.7 (talk • contribs).

A Business Anaylst is a person who performs a role/function within an organization. Business Anaylsis is on of the functions that a Business Analyst may do. A Business Analyst may perform Business Analysis and/or Requirements Analysis.

I agree to not merge, in true BA style I would have to ask what is the benefit of merging? You don't have to be a Business Analyst to perform business analysis and you don't have to just do analysis when you are a BA. People who want to explore the definitions of both topics just have to click the links bwetween them, what's the problem with that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Srolland (talk • contribs) 09:40, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Merge. In this case, I suspect anyone looking for information about "Business Analysis" will want to know about "Business Analysts" too, and vice-versa. This document can be divided accordingly, but it is a logical combination for a single article. As for the benefit of the merge: it would remove duplication, which any programmer (at least) knows is a good thing. 62.25.109.195 (talk) 14:40, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Roles of business analysts
Should this section be moved to business analyst? Ghaag (talk)

Bolded headline "Goal of business analysis"
Problem, Direct Quote from live page:

"Keeping score is part of human nature as we are always comparing ourselves or our performance to others, no matter what we are doing."

has no citation and avoids weasel words, but causes speculation regarding the origin/credibility of this information.

Suggested Solution, Remove line from page. Edit following statement of "keeping score" to "keeping accurate data". ~drumscj

Some bullet items are too vague
The Surveys bullet item is too vague. I don't know what kind of surveys the article is talking about. In addition the 'matrix' bullet point is too vague. I don't know what's being talked about here either. I'm guessing it's traceability matrixes. I'm also guessing that 'diagrams' means use case diagrams. Finally, 'models' does not identify anything about what kind of models. ~jonrgrover

Excuse me for bursting to your site... but
This article requires attention. I'm a senior BA so making some changes to it, please feel free to discuss and sorry I'm not registered here... Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.153.223.97 (talk) 09:08, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Business Analysis vs Business Analytics
Hi,

I wanted to add some more content that may be useful for readers.

The page 'Business Analysis' talks mainly about the 'Business Systems' (Software Solutions) branch of Business Analysis. There is a 'Business Operations' branch of Business Analysis which tracks Business performance metrics for Business planning and bench-marking. The 'Business Operations' branch is covered in the 'Business Analytics' page which may confuse readers.

To sum up, both 'Business Analysis'& 'Business Analytics' mean the same except for the difference that one is a verb (Business Analysis) and other is a noun (name of the field) (Business Analytics). However there are popular branches within the field as shown below.

Business Analysis-

Business Systems Analysis - Software Solutions & Business applications, Business Operations Analysis - Performance tracking & planning

Business Analytics -

Business Systems Analytics - Software Solutions & Business applications, Business Operations Analytics - Performance tracking & planning

Regards,

101.63.180.192 (talk) 19:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)Sashidharan http://sashidharanb.wix.com/businesssolutions

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