Talk:Business rates in England

Removal of UBR history
In a recent edit I removed a piece of history on the Uniform Business Rate as it didn't really seem to fit when there was no wider history of business rates. I have no strong feelings against it, just felt a bit out of place. I intend to expand upon rateable value in a separate article, which is why its description here is very brief.Winklethorpe 00:24, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Work in progress
The page has now been significantly expanded. It can be considered to be a beta only, as a lot of legislation references need chasing down, and it probably needs a lot of formatting and standard-meeting changes. All comments welcome, as I hope to get it into better shape soon. Winklethorpe 09:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow!! Nice job! I saw you working on this in your Sandbox and thought this was going to be a nice update.  Great work!  Morphh   (talk) 19:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I haven't had a chance to really look at the change (to a bullet list). But I wanted to mention that it is recommended that we do not use bullets if the passage reads easily using plain paragraphs or indented paragraphs (see MOS).   It may read much better as bullets... haven't really looked.. just thought I would mention it though.  Morphh   (talk) 15:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, at the moment the 3 entries don't justify a bullet list, but I moved it to bullets in expectation of finding a lot more things for the list. I've not researched it fully yet, but as the Welsh Assembly have had about 9 years to do things differently, I'm betting on finding quite a few. I'll review it once the section is finished, though. Oh, and modernised is indeed the usual UK spelling. I intend to use UK spelling throughout as it's a UK subject. Is there any way to tag an article with a "UK spelling" notice? Thanks, Winklethorpe 06:07, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Not sure if there is a tag but it is pretty much implied by the article subject. My spell checker flagged it and I'm not that familiar with UK differences.  I'll ignore my spell checker next time (or at least verify it). :-)  Morphh   (talk) 11:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Despite a lot of poking around, I've not found any more major differences from Wales (although I've clarified the ones I've already found). Probably just means I've not looked hard enough. :) I've collapsed the list back into sentence form though. Winklethorpe 21:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

The Act of 1601 was known as the Elizabethan Poor Law but is known officially as the Poor Relief Act, 1601 (43 Eliz. 1 c2), it remained on the statues as the basis for rates until repealed in the General Rate Act, 1967. The other primary antecedents for the Local Government Finance Act, 1988 and its immediate predecessor the 1967 Act, were in reverse order: (18+19 Geo 5 c8) The Rating and Valuation Act, 1928; (15+16 Geo 5 c90) The Rating and Valuation Act, 1925; (37+38 Vict c54) The Rating Act, 1874; 33+34 Vict c41) The Poor Rate Assessment and Collection Act, 1869; (41 Geo 3 c23)The Poor Rate Act, 1801; (17 Geo 2 c38) The Poor Relief Act, 1743 and then the 1601 Act. Most of the earlier Acts were repealed by the 1967 Act, which was itself repealed in 1988. The current interest is in tracking down the statutory instrument that was passed delaying the revaluations under the 1988 Act from April 2013 to April 2015.Moonraker55 (talk) 23:54, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

comments from a fellow worker on the taxation project
The name "Business rates" might better be written as "Property Tax (( Business rates (UK))" I good not gauwas confused what the at the article was about untill I actually read it. Sanjiv swarup 08:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, that level of nesting is not in line with Naming conventions. Were there some other subject named "Business rates" then a disambiguation would be appropriate. I think that not understanding what the article was about until you read it isn't actually too much of a problem - explaining the subject is the point of any article. I'd be more concerned if people still didn't understand what it was about after reading it. :-) Winklethorpe 22:21, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Cross linkages with the article "Taxation in the United Kingdom" would be useful Sanjiv swarup 08:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * valid point. Winklethorpe 22:21, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, first time poster here, so please excuse me if I am doing this wrong.

V. useful article, but the National Assembly for Wales was established in 1999, not 1997.

82.5.219.5 (talk) 13:17, 27 November 2008 (UTC)WAG

Use and redistribution of Business Tax
The article so far explains how business tax is calculated. But I am missing a section explaining how the rate is redistributed to local councils (?). Do they get all the tax generated in their territory? ...? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miwoman (talk • contribs) 15:27, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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