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Editing by Cédric Gerbehaye[edit]

There have been lots of edits from a dynamic IP address claiming identifying himself as Cédric Gerbehaye, which of course are being reverted. If you're the editor, this is the explanation: because you are the subject of the article, you have a conflict of interest, and are not permitted to edit the article yourself. This article can, in any case, only contain information that is supported by independent sources (i.e. WP doesn't care what you know to be true about yourself, it can only report what newspapers and books have independently chosen to write about you). If you disagree with anything in the article, you are welcome to request a change, but should do so on this talk-page. WP:ER explains how. Best wishes! Elemimele (talk) 20:36, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded. I'll assume for now that the editor who says he's Cédric Gerbehaye is indeed Cédric Gerbehaye. And I think it's possible that Myriam03 is also him, or related to him. Cédric, I am not so familiar with your work, but I have seen your photobook Congo in Limbo, and it's important, good work. (Although my opinion is of no importance, a good opinion does predispose me to exert more effort.) You merit a good article here. But please don't attempt to write it yourself. Instead, as Elemimele says above, make suggestions here, on this talk page. Every achievement will have to be referenced (as a model, see for example Stephan Vanfleteren#Awards), and disinterested editors quickly tire of googling for references for such claims as that a photographer won award Y in year Z". If, in this talk page, you provide not just the claims but also the references for the claims, then other editors (such as me) will be much more willing to take a quick look at them, to check what they say, and, if all seems good, to add the material to the article. (The references of course don't have to be in English; they can be in French, Dutch, or another language.) -- Hoary (talk) 09:20, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
What Elemimele and Hoary said. Your own websites/websites of orgs where you are a member can have some use per WP:ABOUTSELF, but very limited. The current article has improved from the WP-POV, but there is a WP:LEAD problem. pinging @Myriam03 if they're interested in discussing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:53, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Myriam03, another really useful thing you could do is find a different photo, if you know/are Gerbehaye. The reason is that WP is very strict about ensuring that copyright owners have given their permission before an image is used, and WP itself insists on very permissive copyrights, allowing anyone to use the material even for-profit (provided it's attributed). The current image says it's by Stephan Vanfleteren, and copyright owned by him, so unless you are him, it shouldn't have been uploaded as "own work", and will probably get deleted. It's sad that so few of our articles on living people have images of them, but copyright is the reason. If you have a safe image available for which you definitely hold the copyright (for example you took the photo yourself), then please do upload it to Wikimedia and ask someone to put the link in the article. It'd be nice to have a picture. Elemimele (talk) 10:05, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Adding to the above, there's generally less bureaucracy involved if the pic is previously unpublished. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:53, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am Myriam, a friend of Cedric Gerbehaye. He asked me to upload a new text with fresh infos because he didn't succeed to do it himself. We are new to the Wikipedia language and way of working and I have to confess I don't understand everything. Here is the infos we would like to share. Could you help us please?


Career

In 2002, having studied journalism, he choose photography as his privileged form of expression. To begin with, he focussed on the conflict between Israel and Palestine, and in particular the sense of disappointment and revolt that followed the Oslo Accords in both countries. He then turned to the Kurdish question, both in Turkey and Iraq. In 2006, he obtained two awards from Photographie Ouverte at the Musée de la Photographie in Charleroi. A year later, his work ‘Gaza: Summer Rains’ received special acclaim at the Bayeux-Calvados Award for War Correspondents.

In 2007, Gerbehaye joined Agence VU’. He visited the Democratic Republic of Congo, and the reportages he carried out gave a striking view of the situation. This photographic essay was published under the title Congo in Limbo (Le Bec en l’Air, 2010), as well as featured in several exhibitions, and received several international recognitions (World Press Photo, the Amnesty International Media Award and the Olivier Rebbot Award from the Overseas Press Club of America).

Land of Cush (Le Bec en l’Air, 2013) is a project Gerbehaye inaugurated in South Sudan in 2010. It charts the birth of the country, and its first setbacks. It was supported by the Magnum Foundation Emergency Fund and the Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting. It also won the 2012 Scam Roger Pic prize.

In 2013, he continues to explore new forms of writing and produces the web documentary Broken Hopes, Oslo's Legacy for the 20th anniversary of the signing of the Oslo agreements, awarded by the French Development Agency (AFD) and finalist at the Bayeux-Calvados Award for War Correspondents and the Visa d'Or-web documentary at the Festival Visa pour l'Image in Perpignan. The same year he is invited in residency by the Festival Images Singulières in Sète and publishes ‘Sete # 13’.

In D’entre eux, published in 2015, Cédric Gerbehaye, choose to confront his own country, Belgium, renews his writing, necessarily more personal in a land where the intimate, the experiences and the memories disturb and enrich the outlook. This series, which has been deepened in depth since its first presentation during the Photoreporter Festival in Saint-Brieu, is showed in the FoMu - Fotomusueum in Antwerp and in Mons as part of MONS 2015, European Capital of Culture.

Since while investigating the extraction of natural resources in South America he started in parallel a long feature documentary film inside a prison in Brussels.

In 2020 from the start of the Covid-19 pandemic he will live in close proximity to care workers in Belgium where he will be archiving the different stages of the fight, trying to translate the unspeakable, anchoring it in our collective history. His commitment and immersive experience that pays tribute to the care workers will be published in the book ZOONOSE and exhibited in 2022.

Images by Gerbehaye are to be found at the Museum of Fine Arts in Houston, the Musée de la Photographie in Charleroi, MEP – Maison Européenne de la Photographie in Paris and the FoMu – FotoMuseum in Antwerp.

Cédric Gerbehaye is a National Geographic Magazine contributor and a member of the Photo Society.


Awards

2020 National Geographic Society Emergency Fund for journalists,Washington, USA 2020 Fonds pour le journalisme – Brussels, Belgium 2019 Flanders Audiovisuel Fund – Brussels, Belgium 2019 Canvas Television - Belgian Flemish public broadcaster 2019 Carmignac Photojounalism Award - Finalist 2018 CNC - Centre National du Cinéma - Paris, France 2018 RTBF – National Belgian Television 2016 Fonds pour le journalisme - Brussels, Belgium 2015 Fonds pour le journalisme - Brussels, Belgium 2015 SCAM Bourse brouillon d’un rêve - Photographie 2014 Visa d’or France 24 – RFI Webdocumentaire - Finalist 2013 Prix AFD du Webdocumentaire 2012 Prix SCAM – Roger Pic 2011 Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting 2011 Pictures of the Year International 2011 Bourse Fnac 2011 Magnum Foundation Emergency Fund 2011 Visa d’or Magazine - Finalist 2010 Magnum Foundation Emergency Fund 2008 World Press Photo Award 2008 The Olivier Rebbot Award - Overseas Press Club of America 2008 Amnesty International Media Award 2008 Pictures of the Year International 2008 The Best of Photojournalism 2008 Nikon Press Photo Award 2008 Prix du Festival International du Scoop et du Journalisme d’Angers 2007 Bayeux Award for War correspondants 2007 Joop Swart Masterclass – World Press Photo 2006 Photographie ouverte – Musée de la photographie de Charleroi


External links


https://www.mapsimages.com/

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/article/gold-is-a-toxic-lure-in-the-worlds-highest-settlement

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/article/a-world-gone-viral-an-intimate-look-at-how-the-virus-upended-our-lives-feature

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/article/lithium-is-fueling-technology-today-at-what-cost

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/article/kashmir-conflict-anger-indian-police — Preceding unsigned comment added by Myriam03 (talk • contribs) 13:55, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. In short, this a WP:BLP. It is supposed to be a summary of what WP:RS, independent of Cédric Gerbehaye but writing about him ,has said about him. Anything else is mostly outside WP:s scope and should not be here. Per WP:COI, this article is not a place to tell the world about himself.
Awards can be included with a WP:BLP good reference, no reference, nothing in article.
His MAPS bio is under "External links" in the article.
The NG-links says nothing about him that's not in the article (with a reference) already. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:43, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This could be good for a few awards, comments, editors? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:49, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, Gråbergs Gråa Sång; and I've used it accordingly. -- Hoary (talk) 08:18, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This could be useful too, though it may not be fully independent. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:55, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed again, Gråbergs Gråa Sång; though I think it's good enough for a simple use, which I've made of it. -- Hoary (talk) 08:18, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Myriam03, improving and augmenting Wikipedia articles is indeed complex and confusing, and this is why it's a good idea to start off by making very minor edits, observing and learning from one's mis-steps, and gradually moving up to more ambitious edits. Anyway, a sound article is one that's based on verifiable facts (e.g. that in year W he won award X from organization Y for his work Z) and the opinions of people whose opinions are obviously worth consideration. So how about starting with the impressively long list of awards? The best source for an award is an article from a newspaper, magazine or similar, because this demonstrates that the award is of importance,* and also because it's likely to have some usable commentary. But if such a source can't be found, then the relevant web page for the award (or of the awarding organization) will do. In principle, Gråbergs Gråa Sång, I or anyone else can google for such sources and can then add them, but it's tiring work. If you provide all the needed information here, this will encourage GGS, me, or some other editor to add it to the article. *Yes, I recognize the names of a number of the awards and agree that they're important. But plenty of potential readers won't know this, and there are a lot of "pay to play" photo awards that seem designed to be listed in CVs in order to impress gullible readers. Let's try to demonstrate that the awards CG has won are not merely examples of those awards. -- Hoary (talk) 08:18, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My rule of thumb about awards and similar is that a good secondary source is always better, but if the award or at least the org behind has a WP-article, a primary source (the org itself) may do. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:54, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You're a bit stricter than I have often been,Gråbergs Gråa Sång, but I can't argue with that thumb of yours. -- Hoary (talk) 04:33, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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