Talk:Candace Newmaker

Attribution to 'Rebirthing'?
Where is the supporting evidence that the so-called 'therapy' delivered by Watkins lays within the definition of 'rebirthing' therapy? The canonical literature on the modality of rebirthing begins with the 1974 book 'Rebirthing in the New Age' by Leonard Orr and Sondra Ray. This text makes no mention of the technique used by Watkins. Nobody has produced any references to any subsequent texts on rebirthing which promote such a technique either. This article either needs to substantiate the use of the word 'rebirthing' with a reference to an accepted text on the discipline, or it needs to remove the word 'rebirthing' altogether.

C.Watkins
Should there be a little more about Watkins - what kind of therapist she was, her qualifications, training etc and how come she came to be doing this? Also Ponder of course. I understand Ponder was licensed in California. Was Watkins ever licensed anywhere?Fainites barley 19:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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Relation to Petscop ARG
Would just like to point out there is no confirmed or direct link between Candace Newmaker and Petscop. It's purely a fan theory, and for this reason, was removed. Egonautt (talk) 20:57, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

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Conections to petscop
I'm sure you all have heard this one if you are up to date on new YouTube series. Petscop is a supposed to be an unfinished ps1 game that a man most likely named Paul found. Its almost like Pokémon however after he enters a code the music and when he leaves the area he is in a possible under realm confirmed later in the series and after an hour of searching he finds a cellar door and has no idea how to open it. In the next video he finds the door in 5 minuets and has to leave the room and the door opens by its self. This is the first connection. The door opens on the exact day that the therapists were released from a 16 year term in prison because they killed Candace Newmaker. That is all I post right now. I feel as if Paul watches me and the olive green butt for a face character is to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petscop132 (talk • contribs) 17:16, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

"Creepypasta"
Someone posted a YouTube video about some apparent connection between some game and this subject. The video is both a self-published source and, being the first to posit such a connection, a primary source. It is also not a publication with editorial oversight and a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy (the vast majority of YouTube videos are not considered reliable sources by Wikipedia standards). We need good sources (defined by WP:RS) to include such material. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 03:24, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 03:25, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * BTW even if it were inspired by this subject, we still wouldn't be including it unless it received some major coverage by good sources, as it's trivia and doesn't add to our knowledge of the subject. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 03:26, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * BTW sorry to be a bit harsh. People use Wikipedia many times every day to spam creepypasta (and every other meme) as well as to spam various YouTube channels/videos. The vast majority material posted to YouTube is self-published and about as reliable as a facebook post or a tweet. Plenty of exceptions, sure, but there needs to be a good reason to include according to WP:RS, WP:WEIGHT, WP:FRINGE, etc. &mdash;  Rhododendrites  talk  \\ 03:39, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Relegated to bullet point in "See also" Section. This takes care of WP:Weight objections, seeing how a "See also" bullet point is obviously not the same as an entire Section. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 20:45, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Works for me, since it's mentioned on that article it makes sense. Thanks. I'm skeptical about its inclusion on the creepypasta page, too, based just on that video, but I'll leave it to others to determine that. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 22:01, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

"Creepypasta, 2023"
Just wanted to add that if we are going to include Petscop into the article, we should do it very respectfully. This is the page of a girl who was horrifically murdered after a decade of abuse; my heart goes out to her and I wish someone loved her in her lifetime. If Petscop is going to be mentioned make sure you don't fucking desecrate this page into some place to spew out stupid lore for some creepypasta. I'm not sure if I worded what I wanted to say eloquently but I hope you get the idea I'm trying to convey. NotQualified (talk) 13:52, 20 July 2023 (UTC)


 * RIP Candace Newmaker Elmore
 * I'd like to quote Muhammad Ali: "'Cassius Clay' is a slave name. I didn't choose it and I don't want it. I am Muhammad Ali, a free name – it means beloved of God, and I insist people use it when people speak to me." NotQualified (talk) 13:58, 20 July 2023 (UTC)